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Re: Patriarca to Angiulo power comparison
[Re: BillyBrizzi]
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07/21/17 11:22 AM
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Didn't Angiulo pay Patriarca a whole lot of money to get his button, because he was getting extorted all the time in Boston? That's the rumor, or pretty much fact. Jerry and his clan of brothers were already running money making scams everywhere and made guys kept showing up to take their slice. So, he gave the old man a sack of cash and his troubles were over. Many say this was Ray's plan all along, create enough headaches for Jerry that he sought out help.
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Re: Patriarca to Angiulo power comparison
[Re: Giacomo_Vacari]
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07/21/17 12:31 PM
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Nicolo Angiulo was made before Jerry, and I believe he was the only one of the three who did not pay for his button. Frank was the last one made and Jerry proposed after he gave Rey a great Christmas present. Danny Angiulo was also made and definitely didn't pay for it
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Re: Patriarca to Angiulo power comparison
[Re: BillyBrizzi]
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07/22/17 06:38 AM
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Didn't Angiulo pay Patriarca a whole lot of money to get his button, because he was getting extorted all the time in Boston? Yes Jerry Angiulo promised 100'000 a month for get made,this in the early 50s. I read the black mass book: Angiulo brothers run all the family racket in Boston and Massachusetts while Patriarca sr gave order from Providence. Jerry was the brain while the other brothers made the dirty work. Bulger and Martorano help the fbi to bug the Angiulo office in prince street and jerry and the other was arrested in settember 1983 and this opened a power voi in the criminal world that was filled by the winter hill gang.
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Re: Patriarca to Angiulo power comparison
[Re: dixiemafia]
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07/22/17 11:07 PM
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Vacari you are thinking about Danny Angiulo like Bones just mentioned. Danny was a legit killer and never seemed to truly get along with Jerry.
There was no agreement, Angiulo took over the Boston numbers from Joe Lombardo when he supposedly fled to Italy. The screws were turned on Angiulo oddly enough by Larry Zannino and that's when Angiulo went to The Hill and made his deal with Patriarca. In the end, Zannino ended up under Angiulo even though Zannino and Russo were probably more feared in Boston than Angiulo was.
There is no telling how much money the Angiulo family still had even after they were caught and had to forfeit, being "the guy" over a city the size of Boston?? That's big boy dollars for sure. Jerry was a tightwad for sure so no telling how much he was caught with.
I'd recommend you read The Underboss by Gerard O'Neill and Dick Lehr. It follows Jerry Angiulo and then the wiretaps on Angiulo's office as well as Zannino's office and card games. Just make sure to skip the 2 or 3 chapters on the cops and legal team, that was entirely boring and had no info on Boston. I would love to see the transcripts to both wiretaps honestly.
And I'm not sure Angiulo was ever underboss to Junior Patriarca, as Angiulo was in prison by the time Junior became boss.
I think it was Junior as boss, Billy Grasso from Connecticut under and Zannino was consig. Once Boston went rogue and killed Grasso, then it went to Nicky Bianco as under and J.R. Russo as consig I'm almost certain. After that is when Boston once again had Junior begging for his life and I think Bianco took over until he went to prison then all hell broke loose with Cadillac Frank and others vying for the top position. I thought Donato was a cousin. That was my bad. Danny was active for Boston during WW2 while Jerry was in the military, he is alleged to have participated in the Fat John murder. Nick was made while Buccola was still boss, the other brothers were made when Patriarca became boss, and I am sure Nick was on record with the Modica/Terruso crew before he was made.
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Re: Patriarca to Angiulo power comparison
[Re: pmac]
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07/26/17 08:13 PM
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Wonder which one of the nyc bosses wanted ray jr in a boss probaly chin. They had that guy morris levy who owned all the records store strawberries all over new england in the 80tys that was a big genovese racket. They were everywhere in new england. I never knew that....they were big in the day
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Re: Patriarca to Angiulo power comparison
[Re: pmac]
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07/26/17 08:14 PM
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Wonder which one of the nyc bosses wanted ray jr in a boss probaly chin. They had that guy morris levy who owned all the records store strawberries all over new england in the 80tys that was a big genovese racket. They were everywhere in new england. According to Al D'Arco, Jimmy Ida told him that Chin picked the admin for the New England family.
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