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Re: Why the mob today are not active in the west ??
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and why is that ? why the mob are not trying to go there ? They barella survive in NY. Anyway Tommaso Gambino taked what remain of the L.A. family and there Joe Isgro also for the Gambino the other that come me to mind is shark Montemarano of colombos. in new york the mob is still quite strong just look the murder of meldish in the bronx by the lucchese family meldish was among the biggest gangster in ny in the west there are not crews there are some mafia member who live there and probably some money laundering and gambling operations, but not active crews
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Re: Why the mob today are not active in the west ??
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There are no Italian communities out west. Seattle had one Italian gangster named Frank Collucico. He had a crew of non-Italians. They called it the Seattle Family. It's a joke. I doubt there is an Italian neighborhood in LA either.
Basically, where are the members or recruits? Everyone out here is just regular white people.
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Re: Why the mob today are not active in the west ??
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Thanks furio ! I think that also in the west there are more gangs to compete with right ? Italian OC doesn't really compete with street gangs. I doubt Mexican gangs or the Crips would be involved in complex, white collar rackets like Construction, Garbage, Stock Fraud, or Racketeering. As other people have said, there just aren't that many Italians out in the western US. Most people of Italian decsent have long since become Americanized and are usually long removed from their roots in the old country. They're more Olive Garden Italians who barely know anything about the old country, let alone know the old language or customs. It also seems like people on the east coast didnt assimilate as fast as they did elsewhere, simply because there were so many Italians. The few Italian OC groups that were out West were fairly smalltime and have died out due to attrition like almost everywhere else except for NYC, Philly, etc.
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Re: Why the mob today are not active in the west ??
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The mexicans have any connections with the LCN ? There was an article posted recently of an Italian in Montreal who was getting drugs from a cartel guy in LA. Also, the Zetas have been working with the Ndrangheta in Calabria with drugs, with the Calabrians having people in Mexico to coordinate shipments to Europe. Also, the Mexican Cartels are international and likely are in Europe too working with Italian groups over there. There's probably more we dont know about, but in NYC it seems to be more Dominicans and Colombians who dominate drugs, so they likely have some Italian connections. I bet Cabrini knows more.
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Re: Why the mob today are not active in the west ??
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There actually are very large numbers of Italians (Italian Americans) in the West. Just look at the numbers: www.niaf.org/culture/statistics/5187-2/www.niaf.org/culture/statistics/states-with-the-highest-population-of-italian-americans/http://bancroft.berkeley.edu/collections/italianamericans/San Diego basically has the same % of Italians as Montreal does.... yet Montreal is mafia heaven. And San Diego is on the water, and close to a border. I think a large number of the Italians that settled in the Western US were from northern Italy (similar to Italian immigrants to Argentina and Brazil, where there isn't a very large presence of Italian OC). Northern Italian immigrant communities were not big on organized crime, but were very big on agriculture, entrepreneurship, business etc etc. The West had different dynamics..... for ex, the climate was similar to Italy's so many Italians went into wine making, agriculture etc and made a lot of money doing it.
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Re: Why the mob today are not active in the west ??
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There actually are very large numbers of Italians (Italian Americans) in the West. Just look at the numbers: www.niaf.org/culture/statistics/5187-2/www.niaf.org/culture/statistics/states-with-the-highest-population-of-italian-americans/http://bancroft.berkeley.edu/collections/italianamericans/San Diego basically has the same % of Italians as Montreal does.... yet Montreal is mafia heaven. And San Diego is on the water, and close to a border. I think a large number of the Italians that settled in the Western US were from northern Italy (similar to Italian immigrants to Argentina and Brazil, where there isn't a very large presence of Italian OC). Northern Italian immigrant communities were not big on organized crime, but were very big on agriculture, entrepreneurship, business etc etc. The West had different dynamics..... for ex, the climate was similar to Italy's so many Italians went into wine making, agriculture etc and made a lot of money doing it. San Diego had L.A. family crew,same thing for the Outfit. But you're right but san Francisco had a big community but only a small family. I think that the west coast family doesn't had a Lucky Luciano that organized the families so they had to respond on NY or at least to the Chicago Outfit.
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Re: Why the mob today are not active in the west ??
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There actually are very large numbers of Italians (Italian Americans) in the West. Just look at the numbers: www.niaf.org/culture/statistics/5187-2/www.niaf.org/culture/statistics/states-with-the-highest-population-of-italian-americans/http://bancroft.berkeley.edu/collections/italianamericans/San Diego basically has the same % of Italians as Montreal does.... yet Montreal is mafia heaven. And San Diego is on the water, and close to a border. I think a large number of the Italians that settled in the Western US were from northern Italy (similar to Italian immigrants to Argentina and Brazil, where there isn't a very large presence of Italian OC). Northern Italian immigrant communities were not big on organized crime, but were very big on agriculture, entrepreneurship, business etc etc. The West had different dynamics..... for ex, the climate was similar to Italy's so many Italians went into wine making, agriculture etc and made a lot of money doing it. Most of the Italian immigrants to Montreal and Toronto are people who are straight off the boat.. people who either themselves who came over, their parents, or grandparents. Looking up the total number of Italian-Americans isn't really helpful because many of those are fifth and sixth generation immigrants, who have long since Americanized and married into different ethnic groups. If someone is a gangster in Italy and immigrates to the US, they're going to go to New York or Philly where the mob already exists, as opposed to San Diego because there's no mafia and the few Italians who do live there aren't likely to be actual Italians (compared to people actually from Italy).
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