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JFK Files Released Is the Mafia Still To Blame?
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10/26/17 11:08 PM
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Once we get done pouring over all of the 2,800 released documents hopefully we will get to see how much of the Mafia's role was played in the JFK Assassination... See below: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD5DdOaFtfU
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Re: JFK Files Released Is the Mafia Still To Blame?
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I believe because JFK's dad was obviously in the bootlegging business,as was LCN.
Once Chicago and NY got their grips into the Prohibition money, they told JFK's dad what HE MUST pay them....He probably was not up to date on what he owed them BUT, claimed that once his son became president, THEY would be paid back in a way that only a President can do. I would guess that THEY wanted pardons for jailed members. Maybe even a re-entry for Lucky.
JFK could NEVER grant a pardon as such in the beginning of his term. Impeachment city!
JFK couldn't deliver on the promise his dad made to LCN....So, they chose to make Sr. feel the most pain. Burying his child.
My theory! 1)JFK should simply ignore Mafia but he made his brother U.S. attorney general that pushed Hoover to fight the mob; 2)Luciano was out of games and was replaced; 3)Of course JFK couldn't keep his father's promises but he not only fight the mafia,made fail the bay of pigs operation,He stood against the military because he don't wanted to attack Vietnam,so made more enemy that friends; 4)pardon the mobsters ? in the 1960 the mob controlled the politicians so, no one could try the impeachment.
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Re: JFK Files Released Is the Mafia Still To Blame?
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I would guess that THEY wanted pardons for jailed members. Maybe even a re-entry for Lucky. Lucky was almost two years dead when JFK was killed. But you're certainly entitled to the rest of your theory.
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Re: JFK Files Released Is the Mafia Still To Blame?
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Re: JFK Files Released Is the Mafia Still To Blame?
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I would guess that THEY wanted pardons for jailed members. Maybe even a re-entry for Lucky. Lucky was almost two years dead when JFK was killed. But you're certainly entitled to the rest of your theory. Also got to consider that JFK got into office on January 10th, 1961.....Lucky died January 26, 1962. Since LCN had all the politicians back then, they may have believed that on January 11, a presidential pardon was coming....That is dumb thinking if they did. The only facts I have to even add this into my theory is, just like the Joe Bonanno situation. Once he 100% knew he wasn't getting back into the life, guess what time it is? Time to give the middle finger to your supposed friends. BOOK TIME! I also believe Lucky was murdered.
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Re: JFK Files Released Is the Mafia Still To Blame?
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There will never be some smoking gun as this type of operation wouldn't be down on paper although travel logs for guys like William Harvey , David Morale and David Atlee Phillips . Most of their files are still being held up . Johnny Roselli is a mafia guy that was likely involved as he was very close to William Harvey and David Moralez who ran our foreign political assasination group and who worked together on the Castro hit ZR Rifle . The first documents declassified in the 90s had some real good info on how top CIA guys like James Angelton closely observed LHO from 1959 thru 1963. LHO defected to Russia and was a classified radio operator for U2 planes flying from a CIA / military base in Japan to Russia and yet he was able to walk back into the USA without even an interview , ( yeah ok ) LHO was being used knowingly or unknowingly for some pretty serious shit . Whoever did the hit knew about LHO relationship with the CIA and probably used that to their advantage ( blackmail ) as he was in several important cables between Mexico City and CIA HQs in Oct 1963 about his visits to Cuba and Russia embassies which were shown to the public until the 1990s . The even crazier part is LHO was impersonated in his calls to Cuban Embassy in Oct 1963 so all kinds of intelligence activities was going on around him , I do wonder if he had a clue Crazy shit but I love following it . Who knows who Ok'd but some of the same CIA , anti Castro Cuban and TB / NO / Chi mafia guys that were supposed to hit Castro after the Cuban middle crisis turned around and hit Kennedy . I don't think we will ever know but some Italians researchers are doing some excellent work tracing the Americans intelligence agents and Italians at the company CMC Permadex to the murder weapon and even financing part . Very good new documentary on it and that guy William Harvery was banished to Rome CIA head after his demotion after Cuban Missile Crisis. In 2014 the CIA wrote a report admitting to a "benign cover up" by CIA head McCone and several senior CIA agents whatever the hell that means .
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Re: JFK Files Released Is the Mafia Still To Blame?
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I found a lot of great material in the newly released files, but nothing that connects the Mob with the JFK murder. Nothing at all. I also followed up on some other conspiracy claims, such as Chuck Nicoletti being killed just before he was called to testify in the House Select Committee on Assassinations. That's what a 1977 article in Rolling Stone magazine claimed. I contacted two people who were on that committee and they said it didn't happen. Nicoletti wasn't called to testify nor was he even considered. So after we wade through all the fake news, the evidence points to Oswald as the lone shooter. Nicely said and the Mob probably had nothing to do with it except dont forget that the government "sometimes" keeps important files from us even though they are always saying that everything is released. The only thing was that the Mob was only happy with the whole situation but i would disagree a little bit that Oswald was the lone shooter or in other words i disagree that he acted on his own. Btw wasnt Crimaldi responsible or wasnt he the start for the whole Nicoletti-CIA story?
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Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
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I found a lot of great material in the newly released files, but nothing that connects the Mob with the JFK murder. Nothing at all. I also followed up on some other conspiracy claims, such as Chuck Nicoletti being killed just before he was called to testify in the House Select Committee on Assassinations. That's what a 1977 article in Rolling Stone magazine claimed. I contacted two people who were on that committee and they said it didn't happen. Nicoletti wasn't called to testify nor was he even considered. So after we wade through all the fake news, the evidence points to Oswald as the lone shooter. Nicely said and the Mob probably had nothing to do with it except dont forget that the government "sometimes" keeps important files from us even though they are always saying that everything is released. The only thing was that the Mob was only happy with the whole situation but i would disagree a little bit that Oswald was the lone shooter or in other words i disagree that he acted on his own. Btw wasnt Crimaldi responsible or wasnt he the start for the whole Nicoletti-CIA story? Thanks. Oswald may have had help, but the available evidence points to him as the only shooter. Crimaldi said he believed that Nicoletti may have been killed because of his role in the Fidel Castro plot, not for killing Kennedy. He added that he didn't have evidence for this belief, but he was speculating. A Professor Adams thinks that Gaeton Fonzi, a conspiracy-believing journalist who worked for the HSCA, was the source of Nicoletti being involved in the Kennedy assassination. That's also speculation, but it sounds possible.
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