I dont get it, who was running the multibillion dollar gas scheme where the cosa nostra and the russian mafia were working together, you know the one Michael Franceze was a heavy involved in. Who earned most of it, the italians or the russians, or was it just the italians who got a little piece of it for letting the russians do it?

I al I always kinda pondered that myself..

This was a cool scam. There not to much out there cause its boring for a mob story stealing 25 cents from a gallon but that shit adds up. Mike franseze seems to be the 1 mob guy who profited the most but ive read almost every family had a hand in it. The genovese had a soldier jie glitz that would bring chins bags of money the gambinos had a guy to. I dont know who gaspipe and amuso had but they had someone maybe it was christy tics guy. It started i think as a bk long island scam. Gaspipe killed one of the russians who was a problem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcrknGiJOck

Around 27:00 Michael franseze talks about this. 10 million dollars a week , now thats money. That kind of money is on some Sinaloa los zetas cartel shit.

Now i dont know if it was the whole organization who made 10 million a week (40 mill a month) but i dont think so because he says they as a group sold 500 million gallons of gas a month, and they were making 30-40 cents of each gallon. thats about 150-200 mill a month.

Internet rumor is mike franseze give the persico family so much money they let him walk away but i think its false. I think the persicos would have killed him if he went back to nyc but out of respect for his father they just let it go. Carmine made his dad his underboss in around 2002.

His scam the gasoline shit was super ingenious or whatever that word is but when Michael wrote his book it was just a boring steal a quarter from a gallon of gas around a 1000 gas companys around the northeast. Didnt have the thearter of sammy books or shit crows in Philly how couldnt shine mikes shoes like the saying goes. You wonder how many mob soldiers probaly in some small upstate ny town made a killing off the scam and never got touched. Some genovese guy with gas staions up near Albany.

Funny to they just indicted that genovese soldier in Brooklyn for selling his inherited property's but not paying anuff taxes its weird they want there cutt .

Good 30 for 30 on the nature boy ric flair. The guy says at the end uncle sam loves ric flair but he loves richard fleir to pay his taxes.

https://www.apostille.us/news/mafia-loot-financed-ab.shtml

Bernardo Provenzano did that shit to in Italy.

They both likely made tons of money

Today would the Russians tell the Italians about a big scam like that , unlikely but in the 80s and 90s the guineas ran everything and had all the connections , including LE, so it's possible the Russian guy told the Italians to get the network , protection and the scale to make it massive like it was. My guess is the Russians took a decent cut but really couldn't negotiate from a position of strength and were probably happy to get the cut they did and more importantly know the scan would be poised for big growth with the wiseguys

Death tax shake down...Actually indict someone for that instead of warning them first ?? Disgraceful...Then they'll release some drug dealer early to make room for him in jail !!

Yea no joke. The Feds hit you harder these days for taxes than drugs, and people wonder why we don't like Obamacare...

Its nuts !!

They were equals don't forget the russians have a great expertise in the oil and gas business.

it is really stupid for working class smucks to fight single payer health care.i worked with scores of guys at the airlines who did the right thing with their money and were ready to retire at 59 but could not for medical reasons or the fear of being wiped out financially by a medical emergency.plus it would open up jobs for younger folks if folks could retire at 59 if obama care was named reagan care the same folks crying would be all for it and we know why too