https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4tCZgoRGiU


Max Mermelstein says here 1:15:25 that the Medellin cartel didnt want to work with the Italian mafia in US cause it happend in several occassions that the Mafia would shoot the delivery guys take the stash and simply not pay up.

Paulie Walnuts and Co.

Did anyone else noticed that smile when he said they don't trust the mafia.

Yeah, even a very youthful Joey Biden thought it was pretty funny, didn't recognize him in the beginning..

By the way, three years ago there was an announcement that Hollywood was making a movie about Mermelstein called 'The Man Who Made It Snow' with Jake Gyllenhaal in the lead role. Haven't heard anything about it since, its page on IMDB also seem inactive.

A bit unfortunate, because it could be a very good movie if it would be done right. Gyllenhaal as Mermelstein would be a very good start, the man is one of the best actors of his generation imo..

Mayham...

I wonder did this happened in NY or somewhere else in the states? Cause in newyork the Colombians were strong it seems unlikely they will not strike back.

maybe he is talking about what chris rosenberg/demeo did...

I thought of the same event in Sins of My Father.

This did happen often in the 80’s early 90’s with Colombians and Dominicans being robbed of cash & Blow And also Jamaicans being robbed of Weed. Good Weed, not dirt.
They had the best weed back then, Tie stick and Sence.

Thinking about that episode in Sopranos, Chris and Paulie robbed and killed the Colombians and took the cash.

You mean to that ep mayham
And it was paulie and cary dibartolo who robbed them.
Great ep how paulie told vito i'm going to piss to you want half of that too lol

My intensions with this post is to show the Cartel groupies that outside of their country Colombia/Mexico they are equal to the other organized crime groups with other Nationallity.

You wont see cartel in military style with 4-5 pickups and fully loaded with heavy rifles and blast their way thru everything. Outside of their countries they might lose a battle against Italians, Russians, Albanians, Irish, but also win a battle, its all about timing and situations.


I remember i read in a book that even Pablo Escobar sent people to Europe to deal coke without the Italians permission and his people wound up dead all the time untill he got the point , that he need to go thru the Italians. This was back then when they had monopoly i dont think thats the case now even if they might be the ones who pushes the most coke in Europe.

Yes thats the ep I was talking about. But I also remember they robbed the Colombians more than once LOL, they used them as some sort of ATM machine.

I think cartels power in their own country certainly contributed to their over boarder activities in some degree. But generally speaking they are equal to other groups out of their country.,same goes to the Italian mafia, they are the dominating force in Italy but outside they have to compete with others. Moreover, the aim of cartel is selling their drug to local groups, they do not really concerning taking over the place so theres little chance they have problem with local groups.

Chris Rosenberg robbed Cubans if am correct ... not colombians

Thanks for posting that link doggystyle. Interesting to hear Mermelstein's perspective. The FBI/DEA stuff up was great

The Cuban was closely allied/worked with some Colombians. He had some hitmen in NY and stepped to the Gambinos hard, Castellano was furious and ordered Chris hit.

That is why the story of Italians ripping off Colombians I find hard to believe.

I too would have found it hard to beilve if one of the Italians had said it. But when one of the Medellin cartels guys say that they themselves were beeing robbed sometimes, then i believe it. Its nothing to boast about.

Its not that hard to believe. They probably got robbed by a lot of different groups during their tenure in the 1980s. Its a cost of doing business.Obviously in the demeo situation they were able to trace chris rosenberg back to the gambinos. Perhaps in other situations it wasnt as clear as to who specifiaclly robbed them and it may not have been worth the time and heat to get investigate and hunt people down. Im sure during when the italians were running heroin they were robbed too occasionally.

Yes. I heard a story from a guy who lives in Netherlands, Some guys had robbed him of 10 kilos of cocaine. He said i know i would have won that fight against them if i would want to avenge that robbery, but it is simply not worth the time and heat from the cops.