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Re: The End Is Near.. US and Allies strike Syria
[Re: DE NIRO]
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04/14/18 05:27 AM
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Is there any evidence the Syrian regime actually carried out the chemical weapons attack? Jaish al Islam, the Islamist group in control of Douma at the time of the alleged gas attack, had itself been accused of using gas against Kurdish fighters in 2016 . This is briefly mentioned quite a long way down this story: https://www.thedailybeast.com/one-kurdish-neighborhood-in-the-crossfireThe Syrian regime had basically won the conflict, it doesn't make sense that they would launch a chemical attack in the full knowledge that it would no doubt draw in western countries. Now, on the other hand, it might make sense to launch an attack to draw in western countries if you were the Islamist group losing the conflict. It all seems very familiar...drawn into a conflict we're not interested in and dropping bombs again without any evidence. We're assured the plan is not regime change, however, it seems the US and U.K. are determined not to have Assad in control...his links with Iran have to many implications...
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Re: The End Is Near.. US and Allies strike Syria
[Re: DE NIRO]
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04/14/18 07:34 AM
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fergie
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I'm sure they do know more than us, however, we have no idea what level of knowledge they have, nor does (more importantly) the rest of the international community.
We went to war a few years back on the basis of "evidence" of wmd's in Iraq and the so called ability the country had to strike mainland Europe within 45 mins...it was all complete bullshit and is widely acknowledged as being so. Literally millions marched on the streets against it, but we still invaded without any long term strategic thinking. I worry this is heading the same way. The US defence secretary is saying this is a one off strike, the British Prime Minister is saying they may continue depending on any more evidence found....we all know to our cost that confusion and spurious evidence isn't the best pretext to begin bombing countries and creating a potentially disastrous conflict.
Would you be comfortable betting your house on this evidence being entirely accurate? If yes, tell me why, if not, why? Why should we be risking thousands, if not far more, lives on this? At the moment, it's apparently targeted strikes...who knows how accurate they'll be, or what repercussions it'll bring.
It's strange, I remember trump lambasting US foreign policy during the election campaign. He essentially had an isolationist standpoint, repeatedly giving assurances he would not be involving the US in other people's conflicts. Now, a small village in Syria is allegedly attacked and he's dropping bombs on the place within a week? You telling me it's simply because Assad allegedly used a gas attack? (If he in fact did, who knows for sure)
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Re: The End Is Near.. US and Allies strike Syria
[Re: DE NIRO]
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04/14/18 09:40 AM
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Re: The End Is Near.. US and Allies strike Syria
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04/14/18 10:58 AM
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alexandarns
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I don’t think Putin is stupid. But I am surrounded by Russians here in Brooklyn. They are definately stupid. A few live right where I live so they have money. But they are still stupid in general.
Ever eat in a Russian Restaurant? They put 8 fat Russians in a table that seats six. They can’t even get their arms up to get the ten courses they serve to those people.
I have Russian in laws they are all they are all jerk offs. One I thought I liked so I gave him a watch I was wearing as a gift because he admired it. It has a Russian history so I told him about it.
Once I had 10 Russians eating in my back yard not relatives. In with them was an under cover Russian cop at that table. I knew him from something else I did not rat him out because he was not investigating me. Plus I respect guys with guts he has a fearless personality. Got to like people like that. First of all they are mostly jews or ukranians not really russian that settled in Brooklyn late 70s early 80s, so you have to understand the ethnic composure. Second its no secret the the soviet union let all the scum, criminals and prisoners to emigrate to us at that time. If you look it up online you will find...also lots of armenians, georgians and other euro asian ethic scum. Its called Little odesa for christ sake, not little moscow. Odessa is in Ukraine if you dont know. You should read about diffrent nations, knowledge is a wunderfull thing. 50 years since the vietnam war... the us army grow stronger and better since usa are the strongest in the world
Yes of course Us army is the best paid thats true, but the problem is the us people living their middle class lives not wanting to go to any war let alone over seas to fight the russ. The russians on the other hand are much more poor and prone to war waiting for all thee time. Its a social thing. No one has ever conqured the russians since the mongols in the 13th century. Napoleon, Carlo V of sweden, Hitler etc. The russians are wild, beast like people that is true but not stupid
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Re: The End Is Near.. US and Allies strike Syria
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04/14/18 11:14 AM
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MeyerLansky
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Re: The End Is Near.. US and Allies strike Syria
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04/14/18 04:52 PM
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The Russians are stupid Foots? The US has backed out or lost every war the russians were involved in. You got half of Korea, Vietnam kicked us but, bay of pigs Cuba..The fall of communism was for the russian benefit not the worlds or us, its still the same story. I dont know how would you call a man like Putin stupid, or the russians.. We won WWII with the Russians by the way. And for the Bay of Pigs all we did was supply Cubans who defected with guns and planes. Our military did not participate.
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Re: The End Is Near.. US and Allies strike Syria
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04/14/18 06:44 PM
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alexandarns
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The Russians are stupid Foots? The US has backed out or lost every war the russians were involved in. You got half of Korea, Vietnam kicked us but, bay of pigs Cuba..The fall of communism was for the russian benefit not the worlds or us, its still the same story. I dont know how would you call a man like Putin stupid, or the russians.. We won WWII with the Russians by the way. And for the Bay of Pigs all we did was supply Cubans who defected with guns and planes. Our military did not participate. Of course but it was your idea and you coused the slaugter of some poor cubans. Great job by the way
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Re: The End Is Near.. US and Allies strike Syria
[Re: DE NIRO]
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04/14/18 08:25 PM
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helenwheels
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We can all sleep better knowing that Assad will go back to butchering innocent civilians using conventional weapons, and not chemical ones.
All God's children are not beautiful. Most of God's children are, in fact, barely presentable.
I never met anyone who didn't have a very smart child. What happens to these children, you wonder, when they reach adulthood?
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Re: The End Is Near.. US and Allies strike Syria
[Re: DE NIRO]
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04/14/18 09:57 PM
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The war on the eastern front was the most brutal in ww2. Stalin never expected hitler to actually invade the soviet union. Hitler never expected to have such a difficult time conquering russia. At first the germans gained alot of ground rather quickly and millions of russians were killed. Stalin was equally as brutal, he even ordered his own soldiers to be shot if they retreated and called them traitors if they were captured. Russian woman even fought on the front lines and were tough as fuckin nails. What ultimately prevented the germans from victory was the brutal russian winter.
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Re: The End Is Near.. US and Allies strike Syria
[Re: alexandarns]
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04/15/18 07:26 AM
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And finaly it was the soviets that entered berlin and put the red flag on the parlament of nazi germany not the us... Patton's 3rd Army could have done that a week earlier but a political decision was made by U.S. leaders to ALLOW the Soviet Union the honor of capturing Berlin.
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Re: The End Is Near.. US and Allies strike Syria
[Re: DE NIRO]
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04/15/18 08:04 AM
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helenwheels
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Yep. The partitioning of the Reich for the war's end had been decided at Yalta and agreed upon by the triple alliance. If the western allies had taken Berlin they would have risked lives for territory that was purely symbolic and had been ceded to the USSR and would have to be handed over anyway.
All God's children are not beautiful. Most of God's children are, in fact, barely presentable.
I never met anyone who didn't have a very smart child. What happens to these children, you wonder, when they reach adulthood?
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