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Re: Trump is kickin ass and takin names
[Re: Irishman12]
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Uh oh. The Trump Fan Club is afraid of Bernie. There's your nominee, Dems. That was their nominee in 2016, until the Dems pushed Bernie out in favor of Hillary, while at the same time ostracizing their own voters. Hillary and Bernie are both horrible candidates. Tell that to these peopleHillary and Bernie are both horrible candidates.
"...the successful annihilation of organized crime's subculture in America would rock the 'legitimate' world's foundation, which would ultimately force fundamental social changes and redistributions of wealth and power in this country. Meyer Lansky's dream was to bond the two worlds together so that one could not survive without the other." - Dan E. Moldea
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Re: Trump is kickin ass and takin names
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Did banning alcohol, sport betting, marijuana , prostitution work in the past the answer is a big NO.
None of these things are as dangerous as guns. Besides, our criminal justice system is based on deterrence, not absolute eradication. Deterring mass shootings in any way possible would be worth the effort.
"...the successful annihilation of organized crime's subculture in America would rock the 'legitimate' world's foundation, which would ultimately force fundamental social changes and redistributions of wealth and power in this country. Meyer Lansky's dream was to bond the two worlds together so that one could not survive without the other." - Dan E. Moldea
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Re: Trump is kickin ass and takin names
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06/15/18 02:40 PM
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Hate to quibble with you, Binnie, but Hillary's lead has steadily increased in the polls. She's not in trouble. She never was. This is looking to be the biggest landslide election since Reagan over Mondale. Republican party knows Trump is crazy and that the voters made a huge mistake in the primaries. They're throwing hail marys now because it's all they have. Trump wont' even care when Hillary beats him in a landslide. He'll have a new reality tv show premiering around the time Hillary is inaugurated. Is anyone really in love with any party's establishment? Are you referring to me here? Am I in love with the Democratic party's establishment? I'm not even sure I know who they are. Do you mean Hillary? I guess. I like her. Not sure if I'm "in love" with her. Democratic operatives? The DNC head? I'm not even sure who it is. So, can't really say I'm "in love". People can say what they want about Trump but when they then turn around and vote for Hillary - who is absolutely the worse of the two - No. That's not true, at all, actually. Hillary Clinton is not worse than Donald Trump, at anything. In fact, if Hillary Clinton went into the business world, she would be more successful than Donald Trump. And she would do it without a father's rich friends to bail her out every time she goes belly up, like Donald Trump has. Hillary Clinton is better than Donald Trump at every single thing on the planet. She's genetically better. She's cut from a better cloth. It's just one of many reasons she's destroying him in this election.
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Re: Trump is kickin ass and takin names
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[You and Oak have still not answered my question about how the Santa Fe shooting could have been prevented!
Probably because I've never once argued that any certain event could have been outright prevented. Yes, you said their's a problem with law enforcement. So what was the problem with law enforcement in this case?
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Re: Trump is kickin ass and takin names
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The leftist liberal morons have declared war and war they shall get. What a day. First JCrusher promises a Timothy McVeigh-style terrorist attack if additional gun laws are passed, then Ciment declares civil war. The Trumpies must have switched to decaf this morning.
"...the successful annihilation of organized crime's subculture in America would rock the 'legitimate' world's foundation, which would ultimately force fundamental social changes and redistributions of wealth and power in this country. Meyer Lansky's dream was to bond the two worlds together so that one could not survive without the other." - Dan E. Moldea
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Re: Trump is kickin ass and takin names
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[You and Oak have still not answered my question about how the Santa Fe shooting could have been prevented!
Probably because I've never once argued that any certain event could have been outright prevented. Yes, you said their's a problem with law enforcement. So what was the problem with law enforcement in this case? I said that if people are going to predict that gun laws wouldn't work because they would be violated on a mass scale, then the problem would be with law enforcement. Don't misquote me.
"...the successful annihilation of organized crime's subculture in America would rock the 'legitimate' world's foundation, which would ultimately force fundamental social changes and redistributions of wealth and power in this country. Meyer Lansky's dream was to bond the two worlds together so that one could not survive without the other." - Dan E. Moldea
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Re: Trump is kickin ass and takin names
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06/15/18 02:59 PM
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[You and Oak have still not answered my question about how the Santa Fe shooting could have been prevented!
Probably because I've never once argued that any certain event could have been outright prevented. Yes, you said their's a problem with law enforcement. So what was the problem with law enforcement in this case? I said that if people are going to predict that gun laws wouldn't work because they would be violated on a mass scale, then the problem would be with law enforcement. Don't misquote me. Ah, gotcha. Now it's finally clear. Sorry, you've been so vague in the past. But the question still stands: how could Sante Fe have been prevented? All the laws that are on the books were in place. He was underage. How could this have happened?
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Re: Trump is kickin ass and takin names
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06/15/18 04:17 PM
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[You and Oak have still not answered my question about how the Santa Fe shooting could have been prevented!
Probably because I've never once argued that any certain event could have been outright prevented. Yes, you said their's a problem with law enforcement. So what was the problem with law enforcement in this case? I said that if people are going to predict that gun laws wouldn't work because they would be violated on a mass scale, then the problem would be with law enforcement. Don't misquote me. It is not a prediction it's a fact.
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Re: Trump is kickin ass and takin names
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06/15/18 04:22 PM
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[You and Oak have still not answered my question about how the Santa Fe shooting could have been prevented!
Probably because I've never once argued that any certain event could have been outright prevented. Yes, you said their's a problem with law enforcement. So what was the problem with law enforcement in this case? I said that if people are going to predict that gun laws wouldn't work because they would be violated on a mass scale, then the problem would be with law enforcement. Don't misquote me. You miss quote people all the time, what goes around comes around.
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Re: Trump is kickin ass and takin names
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06/15/18 04:24 PM
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The leftist liberal morons have declared war and war they shall get. What a day. First JCrusher promises a Timothy McVeigh-style terrorist attack if additional gun laws are passed, then Ciment declares civil war. The Trumpies must have switched to decaf this morning. What's wrong you can't take the heat.
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Re: Trump is kickin ass and takin names
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06/15/18 04:28 PM
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Did banning alcohol, sport betting, marijuana , prostitution work in the past the answer is a big NO.
None of these things are as dangerous as guns. Besides, our criminal justice system is based on deterrence, not absolute eradication. Deterring mass shootings in any way possible would be worth the effort. According to your laws of physics people do not die of alcohol, drunk driving, prostitutes getting killed by serial killers,clients , pimps and taking drugs.. Where do you live in twilight zone ?
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Re: Trump is kickin ass and takin names
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06/15/18 08:31 PM
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School shooting deaths can be lowered considerably by having armed guards. Democrats are against armed guards for school kids but their cronies such as Hollywood actors, singers and politicians all have armed guards. It is pure hypocrisy on their part. Then there are Obama policies that credit police for not arresting crimes committed in schools. Democrats live in the twilight zone. Let me be direct,it is the democrats that are responsible for the majority of these school kids deaths for failure to implement security measures at schools. So the people who want gun reform are to blame for school shootings? Alot of schools already have police officers in them, parkland had a cop on duty who was too scared to confront the shooter. New gun laws and having two pigs guarding schools might cut down school shootings by 75%. People act like maniacs to get guns and thats part of the reason mass shootings have spiked. Maniacs are the problem Who is saying that insane be should have guns, everybody is against them having guns, so what is your point or don't you have one ? Lets be honest here you people do not want gun reform you want to ban guns. Most cops have risked their lives to protect people you take one example and paint all cops with the same paint brush which is foolishness. The democrat sheriff from Florida was implementing Obama policies of not enforcing the law and that was the main cause. So you can thank your leftist friend for that shooting going bad.
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