Post of the year. I'll say it again, anyone who compares the immigration of today to immigration that happened 60-80 years ago is lacking an education. Sixty years ago manufacturing made up a huge portion of the country's economy, and the population was smaller compared to what it is today. There was also a long period of time where very little immigrants came to the US, because the Government wanted to assimilate the huge numbers who came in the early years of the 20th Century. Now we have a "service" based economy, with no use for low skilled labourers, but certain people believe it's good to bring those people here. These are the same people who mock Trump for talking about building up the coal industry. They think the country can bring in an infinite number of people to the country without any negative effects. One of the reasons the standard of living is down in the U.S. is uncontrolled immigration, it pushes down wages. The cost of immigration is staggering, much of illegal immigration. In some places they make up the majority of the prison population.

U Got That Right!!!!

But ..If I may correct u sir... The Hippa law is a health law where healthcare workers r not permitted 2 talk about patients/residents conditions etc..

The cost of immigration was always "staggering".

Nobody wanted the Irish or Italian immigrants, either.

Wrong, the Immigration Act of 1924 put a quota on the number of people allowed to immigrate to the country. You're the one who keeps bringing up national origin. Allowing tens of millions of unskilled people into the country is neither good for the economy or very smart, regardless of their origin.

Whatever you mean by skilled, the labor they provide is in demand. That's why they're here.

When the italians came, we needed workers to build railroads, construction, and it was the beginning of the industrial revolution. More importantly, they acclimated and embraced the american way of life. Very differnt than the immigrants who come here today.

Immigrants today are here due to the same labor demand. They don't embrace the American way of life because they face constant racism, and America does very little about it.

The best thing for everyone is for those people to just go back to their country of origin.

Holy fuck ur racist. Why do u care where someone comes from? Just cuz someone comes from a country doesn’t mean shit. Tf is wrong with u.

They said the same thing about Italians.

Big difference. The italians loved our country and embraced the american way of life. the italians didnt live off the system either.
We get a lot of scum that comes into our country today and they basically pollute the country and dont acclimate.

There is a widely accepted and used defintion of an unskilled laborer, it's often used in academia. They aren't here because there is a demand for their skills, but the result of a broken immigration system. Take agriculture for example, less people are employed in that field than ever, and with advancement in technology, less people are needed more so. They come because they get benefits they wouldn't get back home, like getting welfare for their children,

Racism is a tired old canard. There are no policies in place where people are discriminated against because of their race. This isn't Malaysia where the Bumiputera (ethnic Malays) have advantages over non ethnic Malays written into their Constitution. They benefit from admission to university, owning land, lower interest rates on loan, they must must own certain percentage of all corporations there, etc. That's racism, you can't compare to certain individuals not liking each other because of race or national origin. No one group has a monopoly on racism either. There are groups in the country who only hire people of their own race or country of origin.

They don't embrace America because they want to own it, they don't accept it for what it is, but what they want it to be, all you have to do is listen to their rhetoric. As I said earlier, to compare immigration of today to immigration of 60-80 years ago is incredibly stupid. There were no anti discrimination laws then. There wasn't safety nets then like there is today. Immigration over the last 40 years, much of it illegal, has made the US a worse place to live. Poverty has increased, real wages are down, the standard of living is down, the school system is worse off. Immigration, again mostly illegal, isn't the only reason, but it's a factor. To take in 30 to 50 million people over the last 30 years, many who collect welfare, use up public resources while working under the table and not paying taxes. When they go to the hospital you think they pay their bills? The vast majority don't, those who pay taxes foot the bill.

That's pretty ironic considering this is a forum about organized crime, most of the discussion of which is based around Italian American organized crime families with an accumulative total of approximately 6,000 members in NY, alone, at any given time.

Mexicans have dignity. They're not going to assimilate into a culture that spits on them.

"I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees" - Zapata

Then why are they in America in the first place, if they have no respect for the country. They clearly don’t have dignity to come into a country, legal or otherwise, take its jobs, reap its benefits, then make no attempt to assimilate on the basis of “they spit on us.”

There's dignity in taking jobs. They're better at these jobs than Americans. That's why they're in demand. They have plenty to be proud of. They're the backbone of our economy.

Oh boy, the old right wing vs left wing discussions infiltrated this board as well?

Yep. And the left wing remains undefeated.

I don't care either way, but wherever I go, no matter the topic at hand, these kind of discussions seem to be inescapable. It's a sign of the times, I guess.

They're not better at these jobs, they just work for cheaper. There's a difference.

You're only worth what the market is willing to pay. Unemployed Americans need to get out there and compete, instead of crying and waiting on Donald to eliminate their competition.

Well, there it is. It's only happening at places you go to. Maybe you're more complicit than you're letting on.

I don’t buy into this myth that Mexicans don’t assimilate. Can somebody give me a definition on what they mean by that exactly?

If anything, all immigrants assimilate eventually. First and seconded generally half assimilate and by the 3rd they have nothing in common with their grandparents or great grandparents..

Well, I don't think going to a random music or gangster board is actively looking for a political discussion, now is it?
Honestly dude, I don't even know you nor remember you from when I used to frequent this board more actively a few years ago, so I probably shouldn't jump to conclusions. I don't care you're obviously a hardcore left winger, seeing I'm pretty liberal on most issues myself. Yet, when being confronted with snotty statements like these, I don't feel like I'm exaggerating in saying that you do have a tendency to come across as a pedantic ass.

In most cases, no. But in your case, it's hard to say.

Whatever. I wasn't even antagonizing you to begin with, until you decided to act like a douchebag. Talk to me again when you're done sniffing your own farts.

Finally, we find common ground.

what ever happened to this guy?

Anthony (Tigger) Dellavecchia,

http://www.nydailynews.com/archives...mily-searching-son-body-article-1.904881

i knew him from the neighborhood but never knew how entrenched he was with the Lucheses...