Its been 7 years since the feds took down a head, or acting head of the gambinos. Its honestly amazing to me. Frank cali, who many view as the main power behind the gambinos, has been able to avoid indictments for years. I have no doubt that frank can only run for so long. Eventually the feds r gunna have a case. Its just inevitable. Is it just me, but does anyone else think the feds have a solid case against cali, but dont feel a need to press charges? Most of the past Gambino cases have been duds, with gambino guys coping 5 year plea sentences for murder and a lot of guys getting off easy due to weak charges. Im thinkin that the feds r tryin to put cali away for serious shit, that even with a plea would lock cali up for atleast 15 years. When the cali indictment happens, its gunna prob include drug charges, thats what im speculating. Maybe even the feds tie cali too a murder. The case against cali, im sure, is years in the making. Does anyone share a similar opinion to mine?

Feds just want to keep their conviction rates up. A five year plea is still a win. Look at the recent Colombo bust. Gambling and loansharking, no doubt those guys will be out in five years tops.

No one knows anything about him in the recent years.
A lot of people are saying that He keeps a low profile and he is smart.
Even turned down a boss offer too
He also have his food bussines
He seems like more of a gentle bussines man then a mobster.
Imo he is more like the old school mobsters then todays thugs.
So i Can't see the feds arrest him in the future
Iv'e always said here that he can make a big change for the gambinos and the LCN

I'm waiting for giacomo ralphie and pmac to comment there opinions...

i think hes smart probaly 95 percent legit. probaly only a capo. wasnt john gambino his old guy muscle he died. whoevers the boss today has to be a real tough guy to hold a candle next to the westside. there was also a internet rumor about cali leaving his wife whose brother is a gambino big and there being all types of dirt. if cali gets indicted it will be bullshit money charges bank fraud

hes not ordering a hit or beating to rich.

Rumor has it that he is the consigliere
And in his old crew pietro inzerillo is the capo there
But who really knows...

A mafia capo who is 95% legit. Right.. that's called an oxymoron.

And you think every indictment is based on bullshit charges. What's new?

Cali was called by italian LE the invisible don,for sure he understood how isolate himself and one of the thing to do is to don't let the feds think that youre the boss: the official boss is still Dom Cefalù e Calì are listed as the underboss or a powerful capo.

My opinion. Guys super rich. Maybe loan sharking or some type of financial crime.

There was that capo in genovese who owns that acclaimed restaurant in queens he was the capo but let all his underlings run gambling and he takes a small percent thats what i think a capo whose 95legit. Doesnt cali own a huge produce company. Yaeh it will be bullshit compared to crea and his guys looking to kill a snitch in new Hampshire, the meldish hit. 10 million hospital kick backs. It will be boring financial crimes. Doesnt tickle my fancy in the reading department moe. I won't have my pom poms out cheer leading that make you happy.

cali never killed anyone..{where's the body} no murders in that family , gravano, scars cleaned all the murders up. and this drug rumor is just that.because the gambino bros, were heavily involved, does not mean cali lorenzo are, just a stigma in my opinion.the feds are all over them, they have many informants in that family.. if you say construction shake downs,bid rigging, shylocking, sports betting, tax evasion, ill agree is a chance for a pinch .all carry minimal time. just saying...

Cali makes a lot of legitimate money. He is close with jackie nose. His house on staten island is over a million. He lives kind of by castellano’s old house.

I honestly dont think cali has ever killed anyone. Was just a suggestion that maybe the feds tie cali to having taken part in a conspiracy to kill maybe some low level drug dealer. The feds indicted like 10 guys for the Fred weiss hit simply cuz they knew about the hit, so they could bring a bs case against cali. Im sure the feds wanna nail cali but cuz he surrounds himself with panel of a bunch of old school guys, its not likely he will be indicted any time soon. Frank seems like a smart guy. Very legitimate as well. Did some research recently and i saw frank brought a business in bensonhurst for over a million. Frank isnt dumb, hes outsmarted the feds for a long time gotti admit im sorta rooting for cali.

many made guys flipped on weiss hit..if the gambino family kills now, then the murder will fall on cali's and others ledger ..my opinion is all the murders are out of the way for all the new guys running that family,they are smart enough not to upset what they have and start killing again..rats are all over bklyn and staten island, new jersey ,in restaurants where they all go..none want to step out and risk a death penalty case. major investigations,they also know and are smart enough to say the guy next to me may be an informer. no matter how close they are, there are guys that have never been pinched.or had small bids..some paranoia may be good

Murder in a way is still inevitable. If there is a rival drug dealer and he isn’t listening to the gambino fam’s requests to pay tax or fuck off, it would be necessary to kill the drug dealer. He would be costing the family money and thier reputation. When u surround yourself with criminals, its only a matter of time before extreme violence happens.

Z your stuck on this drug dealing thing, when was the last bust of major figures in gambino family or mid level guys that they needed or need to kill?

Even the "honest" businessman today is not 100% legit ,not a single person who has huge amounts of wealth are doing everything 100% legal.

To get back on thread, he also has strong links with Sicilian Mafia,he is one of the most powerful people in LCN at the moment.

When you have legitimate businesses that make money and you don’t have a blood lust or something similar you can get away with more and not get pinched often.

It’s when you are desperate or money hungry or a asshole that has to take from everyone they come in contact with that you make mistakes or you get into business with someone you should not .

If there is a rat in the family and he knows you are not desperate he will not come to you with something stupid cos he knows you know it’s just the way it is you get pinched doing murders with two many people or you go after something that is to good to be true and you are done.

I agree Strax, but I wondering if the whole connection with Sicily is overblown. I mean, it's possible there's an active Gambino-Palermo connection. But my guess is "Operation Old Bridge" ended it (or most of it). The feds are too strong with all of the wiretap and video surveillance these days, and there's too many rats to have a new Pizza Connection or whatever. Just a guess that it's all overblown and that the Gambinos are far more focused locally. I mean, there will still be busts with some associates connected to the Calabrians but I doubt it goes very high up.

Cali has been lowkey, but so was Massino. All it takes is a few people to be scared of the can and flip and then the entire thing comes crashing down.

He is married to Inzerillo. Inzerillo's are back in Sicily since 2008. Cali played a role in that

The last time was jerry bruno in 2014 for the 2002 killing of martin blosshart. Proposed to be made man, todd labarca, also got arrested for the blosshart hit, in 2011. Blosshart was tryin to cut the gambinos outta a drug operation so the gambinos whacked him. Back to my point im sure that the mob would rather threaten/beat up rivals. But sometimes shit ends up like the blosshart situation. I think it was either John Gambino or uncle joe ligambi that said “we gotta stick by the old rules, its the only way to survive”. Murder is a last resort nowadays, but can still be exorcised, if needed.

I know that. I just mean, my feeling is the days of a huge connection between Sicily and New York like the Pizza Connection days are long over. Anything now would have to be much more small time because law enforcement is expecting them to be doing stuff. But who knows, maybe I'm wrong and maybe they're rebuilding in Sicily and Cali has deep connections in Calabria and Canada and is in much deeper than we know.

Cali have connections in canda ??

That was some of the rumors that the Gambinos are connected to Ontario. But no idea how true that is. Someone from up there probably knows more.

It looks like lots of posters in the "Are the Rizzutos LCN?" thread mentioned that the Binos are connected to Ontario, and may have even gave their blessing to Sal Montagna to make his move on the Rizzutos.

Z i'm not familiar with the murder you speak of, guys in the gambino family were arrested for a drug murder? can you tell me the case. with great thanks

2002 pete gotti was boss, cali was an acting captain for nose, gambinos in prison still.. who were labarca and bruno with in gambino family i never heard of them..thanks

The two were young enforcers for ronnie trucchio. Also very involved in drug dealing. Cali, jackie nose, pete gotti, had nothin to do with the hit. The point of me bringing up the blosshart hit was to show that, if pushed to it, the mob will still carry out murder. Blosshart was costing the family money, so it made since to kill him.

Bu rebuilding, you mean Sicilian Mafia ? Yes they are gaining some of the power they lost when Riina went to war with the state. Police are focusing on 'Ndrangheta.