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Re: Do u think Gotti would have finally retaliated
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It's difficult to imagine what might happen in that situation. Like MeyerLansky mentioned, Gotti could have been killed by members of his own family who were sick of him. If that doesn't happen, I could understand Gotti taking on just the Luchese family. However, by that time Amuso and Casso were on the run or in prison so there wouldn't have really been anyone to go to war with. If he found out it was the Genovese and Luchese families together, I don't think he would have been dumb enough to take them both on. I don't think the other two families would have joined up with him either. You know a story I love from this time period? The Lucchese hierarchy were having a sit down with the Genovese hierarchy. Venero Mangano led Anthony Casso and Vic Amuso through a labyrinthine network of tunnels in order to meet up with Chin. They were offered alcohol and Casso declined, but Amuso accepted, and Casso looked down on Amuso for it.
Where did I read this? If it was the book Philip Carlo wrote about Gaspipe then you can probably discount it. It is from that book. According to Casso, a drunken Amuso raised his voice against the Chin and banged on the table. Casso had to calm him down  The sitdown does seem to have actually happened though. It concerned Pete Savino owning Amuso and Casso money. Savino said he was ordered to pay them.
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Re: Do u think Gotti would have finally retaliated
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The bomber mistook DeCicco for Gotti as they looked somewhat similar from afar. The Gambino’ s owned ( still do ) the DeCalvacante’s. The Lucchese’s were very busy killing each other which would of made it very convenient for the Gambino’s to clip a bunch of Lucchese guys and blame it on their internal friction which there was a lot of. Not only was it a bronx bs brooklyn thing, the jersey faction of the lucchese’s were laying very low due to Casso wanting all of them killed. I dont think Gotti would of went after anyone on the west side as they had plenty of joint business ventures. Chin wasnt a go to war kind of guy anyway. the west side are not gunslingers anyway, they clip people much less frequently than any other family, although their murders are very public when they occur. They send messages. They dont kill for no reason and their is much less internal friction with the Genovese, hence their perpetual stability.
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Re: Do u think Gotti would have finally retaliated
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Gotti was a tough guy no doubt and fearless to a point. He was very feared within the Gambino family, ie Marino and Joe Watts according to Fat Dom were waiting for Gotti’s appeal- before they would attempt to whack out Junior. For they knew, if they killed his son. They were dead men walking once Sr got out
BUT Gotti was also smart enough to realise it wasn’t worth risking war with the other families. Hence, I was wondering at what point would he finally fight back.
He knew his guys were going down as mentioned ie Bobby Boriello, Lino, Frankie, etc and was ignoring it. He knew the West Side was putting a hit on him. Yet he still done the ‘diplomatic’ solution to avoid further bloodshed.
Next on the list would have been guys like Jojo, D’Amico. Chin wanted to get all the guys around Gotti and finally go after him. That’s the only time he would have struck back imo- if there was a real hit on him or Pete, a failed hit perhaps.
Someone above mentioned Casso and Vic were on the lam/ out of reach for retaliation. Don’t forget they still had their guys on the street. Bobat and Frank Lastorino maybe even Lil Al would be perfect targets
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Re: Do u think Gotti would have finally retaliated
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Colombo did it when the mafia was still secretive and under the radar. He was very overt and pissed off a lot of people despite being warned. The commision case brought the mob front and center. Gotti was both liked and respected by most of his men despite what some say. He was also feard and guys earned big with him. Why kill him??? Does anyone really think LE would of slowed down on the Gambino’s if Gotti was killed? No !! Massino closed down all the mob clubs and he still went down. Gotti would not of been killed. If LE didnt get him in 1990, he would of went down by 91 whether he was low key or not. The FBI doesnt give mob guys a pass if they stay out of the media.
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Re: Do u think Gotti would have finally retaliated
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On second thought..They wouldn't of been to successful in wacking John without starting a street war....He had a lot of Family ( Brothers) backing him up ..Maybe a splinter group of Gambinos would've emerged..but it wouldn't of been good. After Frankie D was killed I think the other Families accepted John to a extent.But I think John would've had Sammy gone eventually without a doubt.
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Re: Do u think Gotti would have finally retaliated
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I think Gotti would of had Gravano arrange to have mark zuckerberg clipped. And then had willie boy johnson kill gravano.
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