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Re: Russian mafia
[Re: Zero6245]
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08/05/18 01:06 PM
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TheKillingJoke
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Growing influence? In NYC? I really don't think so. They made a lot of noise in the 90's, but nowadays Russian mob activity in NYC, although still existent, seems to be on the more dormant side of the equation.
The most recent two busts involving "Russian" (post-Soviet) organized crime were the Shulaya group in 2017 - which were mostly Georgian gangsters - and the Tsvetkov-Gershman group in 2016 - which were mostly Jewish and Slavic gangsters from Russia, Ukraine, Belarus and Moldova. Both cases involved theft, extortion, gambling, fraud and narcotics. Not really on an unseen scale and nothing that you wouldn't find the local Cosa Nostra crew being involved in, EXCEPT for the almost frightening extortion the Tsvetkov-Gershman group committed. They were literally following relatives of their shakedown victims throughout the USA, Israel and Eastern Europe. Some scary shit.
Their perceived violence is a bit overstated. Except for the inhuman massacres happening in the Mexican cartel world, any criminal group can be as violent and brutal as the other when they need to be. With the "Russians" there isn't really much of an organization as there is with the Italians. They're slightly smaller crews of sorta sophisticated thugs that can turn on each other as quick as they work together. There were lots of whackings in 90's Brighton Beach, but it only concerned other Russian gangsters. They rarely stepped on the toes of other criminal organizations in the city and kept to their own territory.
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Re: Russian mafia
[Re: Zero6245]
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08/05/18 07:36 PM
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ThePolakVet
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Russian speaking OC groups mostly stick to their own business and don't fight for "territory" in the US, they will more be interested in joining forces for business rather than having wars over imaginary things. They have their internal wars for authority, as much as LCN has. The business the big groups do is more financial crimes, such as frauds for example credit card fraud or medicare fraud as it's more profitable and with less risks.
Russian crime groups have more different approach to violence, for example contract killings. There are people who specialize in that and only perform those kind of jobs, simply the other story for LCN where to become a "made man" is must to have killing someone. There are these nuthead groups from time to time as KillingJoke mentioned before, but these are small groups and as they are nutheads then they easy turn on each other when it comes to prosecuting. In Russia it's a different story, violence is used more, not to an extent like with Mexican Cartels and motorsaws, but still if you have feud with certain groups, you might end up getting beaten to death or criple status as the smallest outcome of it.
Difference from LCN is that these groups don't have this all control over each other thing, with one structure and some commission on top. Each groups has different ranking, and structure and all Russian speaking groups are not connected to each other, which eventually makes them just individual groups rather one big organization. I might be wrong, but in my opinion, LCN faces all this attention from Law Enforcement due to their structure and old traditions that they don't change. Once they know the ranks, they just need to fill it in like a middle school quiz for biology.
90's was a period of reforms in the ex-USSR countries, different from the traditional Thieves groups - were born lots of different crime syndicates and groups all over the territory, each one fighting for power. Sometimes in small cities they just fight for one small market to extort potato salesmen(sounds funny, but true). It was a crazy period and lots of killings happened, for different reasons - power, double crossing, money, etc. The ones who survived these years in the criminal world are now very respected people, some turned into legal businessmen, some stayed the same.
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Re: Russian mafia
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08/28/18 07:27 AM
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