I'm confused about whether he's made or an associate and whether he's with the Bonanno or Lucchese Crime Family. It's amazing it hasn't come out in the wash yet.

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I’m starting to think the Zottolas were shelved.

why ??

If outsiders (aka non-Italians) are in fact behind all this, then there are chances that the Zottolas were not protected, hence shelved after Basciano’s downfall or they purposely walked away.

They had no one looking after them is what I’m saying.

Regardless of what the msm says about the mighty Albanians taking over the NY mafia (we witnessed this spectacle years ago with Rudaj) we sure know that today’s LCN is more than capable of and prone to violence. And we know how much pull the LCN has in NYC and beyond.
With this in mind I don’t believe that a non-Italian group, no matter how powerful, would have dared to take out two fully fledged associates of a crime family...just because they were hoping to muscle into their racket.

How many NY wiseguys are into poker machines and lucrative gambling rings? A heck of a lot.

How many of them have been attacked, their homes burglarized and lastly gunned down by non-Italian crews who were looking to muscle into their racket?

The fact that the Zottolas were brazenly attacked several times prior to the attempt on Salvatore and Sylvester’s murder, makes me think that these alleged outsiders knew the father and son were huntable game.

the mob has been better since the early 2000 especially the gambinos who are doing great
the only one who got hurt since then are the bonanno's with massino who turned informant
other then that they are surely rebuild themselves

There's no way these guy's are running a major gambling and loanshark racket ad not be kicking up to a family, and no family will sit back and loose a make income stream. Philly didn't allow it when long legs was stepping on people's toe's and they was just one family and much smaller...give it a month's

Remember, Michael Corleone waited years until his father died before he exacted his revenge for the family, look at what's going on in Montreal....time is key

and that means that whatever happened with the albanianas 15 - 20 years ago is history, because the mob are not the same as they used to be,
they got stronger since then...
and the albanians simply took advantage of the big fall of the mob in 90s - early 2000s (with gravano, massino, the chin and all of the bad things that happens to them)
so now it's a different story, the mob are stronger.
so all we have to do now is to wait and see what will happened on the street,
and wait for more news from the feds about who really was behind this.

like luans theory i just thiunk there protectors got swept of the street by the feds. who knows who is running the show for the luchese now but i bet the power has sifted back to brooklyn maybe long island. so they probaly didnt have a clue about what the zottolas were kicking up to crea. but then after the first attack someone should have interveened so again no clue

I think we're over stating the arrests, I doubt a boss in today's world was direct with this guy, so people on the streets would know to protect the money maker

I think we're over stating the arrests, I doubt a boss in today's world was direct with this guy, so people on the streets would know to protect the money maker

The heat is on, the smart play is to wait

It's a low chance that Shelz will flip. If the news sources are accurate about him being a high rank UBN member than his membership is secured in prison. So far he haven't made a plea just remaining quiet.

Which set he belongs too?

I don't know but assuming the Mac Baller Brims since he's from East New York.

I have to believe that whoever Zottola was kicking up to can't be too happy right now. And he loses face if he doesn't act at some point.

I highly doubt the Zottola's were protected by the Bonannos. It's just suicide whacking their earners.

The Luccheses on the other hand.....I don't know, their top guys are in lockup.

Whatever family the zottolas are in should've hit back already. They have absolutely no choice so they might as well get it over with

But hit back at who? It's not smart to throw darts in the dark. And black gangs teaming up with Albanians is strange, they tend to side with the Italians

I still wouldn’t be surprised by the end of the day if it comes out that it was the Italians who authorized the hit and not the Albanians.

Was the black dude charge by the feds or nypd?

This is a really good point

They would hit , if they want to. They care only about the money , nothing else.

Remember what FBI agent said about Rudaj Organization:

"The Luchese were getting ready to whack all of them," the agent said. "The Lucheses were just tired of them. They'd gotten too big for their britches." The Feds, literally, scooped up the Albanians right before the Lucheses could strike.


And 5 families today , are doing much better than they were back then.

what did the father do so bad that even after they robbed the dad and stabbed him then shot the kid point blank infront of his home that the bloods came back a 3rd time nowing these guys are being watched by every agency in ny state to kill him in a mcdonalds drivethrew. like taken, upgrade, movies. that father must have really pissed someone off. wouldnt any normal mob boss be like theres to much heat let it go. he on the front page of the post and daily news

The only scenario that makes sense to me:
Is the Zuttola's stopped kicking up after Basciano got locked up maybe they felt they were close the Lucheese's and Genoveese and Basciano not with them but friendly they tried to pull away the Albanians or who ever made a move the Zuttola's either than went to whoever and whoever said NAH your not with us not our problem OR the Zottola's thought they can handle the threat on their own. This isn't the first time they were hit this has been happening for over a year that we know of. If they are with any LCN family that LCN family would HAVE TO retaliate and/or protect their earners, otherwise other families or groups will move in and take over all of their rackets.... We will find out the story shortly these bloods and crips flip very quickly.... If they were not protected by LCN I wouldn't be surprised if LCN set them up by outsourcing

Black gangs/crews teaming up with Albanian isn't strange, this been happening for about a decade or so.

do you have sources about it?

It is really really strange, Albanians never work with blacks or use them for their dirty work.

i think we discuss this hit more then the feds are

I agree it´s probably internal within the Bonannos.