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Re: Pizza connection question
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05/07/20 12:15 PM
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mexico and colombia was flooding the usa in the 70tys it just didnt make for great press like a few old guys smuggling dope from italy across a ocean, i mean they were smuggling but read the pizza connection book sometimes the boss baldamenti was sending 2 to 5 kilos of dope a month thats not that big. then the guys were caught complaining the product was weak or no good and while this was happening up im the northeast around 1970tys 80ty miami is builing there city on drugs It’s good that you say that about Badalementi. I have always seen people say that he was a “Heroin King†and he made so much money but when I read online that he couldn’t pay his or his son’s multi million dollar bail then I started to think that people were grossly over exaggerating his kingpin status. I think he might have oversaw a lot of heroin dealings but I don’t think that it’s evident that he was making as much as someone like Frank Matthews.
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Re: Pizza connection question
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05/07/20 12:49 PM
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mexico and colombia was flooding the usa in the 70tys it just didnt make for great press like a few old guys smuggling dope from italy across a ocean, i mean they were smuggling but read the pizza connection book sometimes the boss baldamenti was sending 2 to 5 kilos of dope a month thats not that big. then the guys were caught complaining the product was weak or no good and while this was happening up im the northeast around 1970tys 80ty miami is builing there city on drugs It’s good that you say that about Badalementi. I have always seen people say that he was a “Heroin King†and he made so much money but when I read online that he couldn’t pay his or his son’s multi million dollar bail then I started to think that people were grossly over exaggerating his kingpin status. I think he might have oversaw a lot of heroin dealings but I don’t think that it’s evident that he was making as much as someone like Frank Matthews. Badalamenti was kicked out of the Sicilian mafia commission already by 1978. When he was arrested in the Pizza Connection case in the 80s, he was far from being at the peak of his power; some people were still loyal to him, but it was a joke compared to the 70s, when he was the representative of the whole Palermo province on the regional commission.
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Re: Pizza connection question
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05/08/20 02:02 PM
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mexico and colombia was flooding the usa in the 70tys it just didnt make for great press like a few old guys smuggling dope from italy across a ocean, i mean they were smuggling but read the pizza connection book sometimes the boss baldamenti was sending 2 to 5 kilos of dope a month thats not that big. then the guys were caught complaining the product was weak or no good and while this was happening up im the northeast around 1970tys 80ty miami is builing there city on drugs It’s good that you say that about Badalementi. I have always seen people say that he was a “Heroin King†and he made so much money but when I read online that he couldn’t pay his or his son’s multi million dollar bail then I started to think that people were grossly over exaggerating his kingpin status. I think he might have oversaw a lot of heroin dealings but I don’t think that it’s evident that he was making as much as someone like Frank Matthews. Badalamenti was kicked out of the Sicilian mafia commission already by 1978. When he was arrested in the Pizza Connection case in the 80s, he was far from being at the peak of his power; some people were still loyal to him, but it was a joke compared to the 70s, when he was the representative of the whole Palermo province on the regional commission. With drugs being a major cash business, how did he manage to lose so much even after he was kicked out of the commission? Do you think he spent a lot trying to escape and hide or did his rivals take a good chunk of his cash from him?
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Re: Pizza connection question
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05/09/20 05:29 AM
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mexico and colombia was flooding the usa in the 70tys it just didnt make for great press like a few old guys smuggling dope from italy across a ocean, i mean they were smuggling but read the pizza connection book sometimes the boss baldamenti was sending 2 to 5 kilos of dope a month thats not that big. then the guys were caught complaining the product was weak or no good and while this was happening up im the northeast around 1970tys 80ty miami is builing there city on drugs It’s good that you say that about Badalementi. I have always seen people say that he was a “Heroin King†and he made so much money but when I read online that he couldn’t pay his or his son’s multi million dollar bail then I started to think that people were grossly over exaggerating his kingpin status. I think he might have oversaw a lot of heroin dealings but I don’t think that it’s evident that he was making as much as someone like Frank Matthews. Badalamenti was kicked out of the Sicilian mafia commission already by 1978. When he was arrested in the Pizza Connection case in the 80s, he was far from being at the peak of his power; some people were still loyal to him, but it was a joke compared to the 70s, when he was the representative of the whole Palermo province on the regional commission. With drugs being a major cash business, how did he manage to lose so much even after he was kicked out of the commission? Do you think he spent a lot trying to escape and hide or did his rivals take a good chunk of his cash from him? Don't know, could be either way, but most of his allies in Sicily were killed in the first 80s, he was not only kicked out of the commission, but even removed from the position of boss of the Cinisi family. By the time of his arrest, he was pretty much isolated imo.
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Re: Pizza connection question
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05/09/20 01:20 PM
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A lot of people dont really understand that the mafia was actually kinda broke during this period. It's the only reason they initiated the Naples families, and got involved with heroin trafficking.... the families with links to the US were making the most of money... At what point did the mafia in Italy become a multi billion dollar enterprise and surpass everyone else? Was it in the 70s(French connection heyday) or 80s(pizza connection)? You are right on, they were relatively poor in comparison to the American families until they got into cigarette smuggling and drug trafficking. I think they learned a lot from the American families.
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