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Re: accurate info on size of GTA 'ndrangheta
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This is a question I have asked myself before. After a lot of info gathering, the best answer I have is this: there are around 100 members of the ndrangheta that are initiated in Toronto, with hundreds of associates, maybe over 1000 overall. (Italian +non Italian) Not all initiated members are involved in serious crimes. Some members were initiated when they were younger solely because they were related to other members, ect, and now they may go to the various cafes, play cards, gossip, offer advice, but not be heavily involved. They may have family members that are involved though, and act in an advisory and connection role. Hope this helps.
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Re: accurate info on size of GTA 'ndrangheta
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A proportion that then had to be reduced, compared to the nine Locali present in the entire Ontario. This latter number to consider certain thanks to a fundamental secret recording of a phrase contained in the Italian Project Crimine (2010), “In Toronto [to be understood as Ontario] there are nine of us…â€, recorded in 2009 during a visit of Rocco Etreni, high rank of the Locale of Thunder Bay, to Giuseppe "The Master" Commisso (right), supreme boss of Siderno, inside his laundry mat that served as cover for him.
And, moreover, two Locali, probably the only ones within the Crimine of Toronto, which do not depend on the mother-Locale of the town of Siderno (the term mother-Locale, adopted by both Italian and Canadian judicial authorities, indicates the Locale that, from Calabria, directs all its dependent Locali scattered throughout the world), but on the near mother-Locali of the towns of:
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Re: accurate info on size of GTA 'ndrangheta
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The rule is that 7 ndranghetisti can made a ndrina and 7 ndrine can create a camera di controllo (Chamber of Control) but this happened decade ago. If a ndrine was created in 1950s every sons of the members become automatically members to the blood ties plus plus if the members have daughters them must marry a sons of ndrangheta members or a man that deserve to be made and their sons will increase the ndrina numbers. Out this people that form the Minor Society there are those form The Santa and the Mayor Society. So is difficult to say the exact numbers of ndrangheta men and who is the real boss because in Canada the ndrangheta exist from the 1930s and with no rats there are no infos on the structure. i knew that 7 ndrine form a locale (also called settandrina) and that the chamber of control serves to settle disputes Yes my bad,anyway when a Locale is formed the various ndrine can easly grown and unite themself by marriage. That is the power of the ndrangheta,it is flebile and can change and adapt to the bussinesses occasion. Look at the differences between the ndrangheta in Canada and Australia.
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Re: accurate info on size of GTA 'ndrangheta
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I pretty sure that there were Commisso in Hamilton, as early as the 1920-1930’s, via Detroit maybe??if true that Verducci was operating in Hamilton, as Siderno, then this could of the thread that lead to that.
From what I’ve been told it’s a missing link in the Rocco Perri disappearance.
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Re: accurate info on size of GTA 'ndrangheta
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What about Francesco Arcadi thought I read that he had connections to Hamilton? Maybe had someone whacked? Was it Pugliese, his connection??
Seems to have good traction in Woodbridge.
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Re: accurate info on size of GTA 'ndrangheta
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where some guy comes from in italy was never a major part of the 10 year long war in MTL. such a scenario was completely overblown by the press worldwide. war was over territory led mostly by a french canadian who aligned himself w/ an array of different criminals from all nationalities including for a time the sicilian leader of the bonanno crime family who he then subsequently murdered. whew!!! I think the legend of the Southern Italian flown in to depose of Rizzuto, was allegoric. Something like Rome coming under attack, mostly related to where the Rizzuto are from in Sicily. Charlemange or something? 2 types of French, Bonaparte vs Charlemange or in real terms Boucher vs Desjardin or something very close. What about the fire chief with the Scoppas? Sounds like both of those brothers got played pretty hard into the end. I recall hearing that Andrea was cool with Sollecito/Rizzuto/Woolley/Boucher in 2014, but by 2019 both brothers are dead, both in very public displays. Also the triggers on the Sal Scoppa hit maybe crossed over from the other side of the Atlantic.
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Re: accurate info on size of GTA 'ndrangheta
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They can traced this all the way back to the Sforza vs Collins Family, I think it’s the Richardson Family of East Coast vs Rizzuto, they would be the ones to use the 🚓 to abduct Paolo Renda, Desjardins could confirm all, if he already hasn’t. Or ask Cazzetta about being the Rock Machine, during that war or if it’s over. It’s like the upper class Irish women, who tried to murder Mussolini. https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.irishcentral.com/roots/history/irish-woman-who-shot-mussolini.ampKinda like when Christopher is explaining hell, to Tony Soprano and Paulie Walnuts, it’s St. Patrick’s Day everyday. The Bacchus is an East Coast Club, that is in Hamilton, it seems as if the Hamilton Bacchus attempt some power play with OLMC and some HA, to remove the HA Nomads, don’t know why tho? They might have collaborated with Martin Robert, David Leferbve. The shooting of Nomads in Ontario in 2016, who survived, may have been this confederacy, in collaboration with whoever was killing everyone in Hamilton. Legal Weed, Gambling, and Sex, prostitution/ porn (online) and offline (all kinds) via Hollywood North?? Whatever that is? As well as drugs, seems to be the issues, strippers included. Lots of money generated for sex on and off line. Lastly, Bacchus are the ones who torched Pat Musitano’s car, or at least gave the order.
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Re: accurate info on size of GTA 'ndrangheta
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Found out about a prizefighter name Josh Hill, he is from Stoney Creek. https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/josh-hillHe is/was claiming that half his family is Musitano the other half Papalia. I looked into the Papalia side, seems to be BS. So I guess he and his family are Musitano? Whatever was suppose to happen in Hamilton after Rizzuto died failed, seems like whatever tie this guy has might of been who whacked Verducci. This Hill and father are both firemen as well, maybe part of the group with Desjardin, that were with the Scoppas till they got finished off. It’s been suggested to me that Giorgio Baressi, was either setup or murdered because of this cell? If it is even true!! There is a HA out in Stoney Creek as well, his kid was a boxer who didn’t use his last named, used his mother instead Riley. I think they call the dad Geo, anyways, might provide a link to add to the list of Calabrese in the Provincia.
In Sicily, women are more dangerous than the shotgun.
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Re: accurate info on size of GTA 'ndrangheta
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Additionally the two brothers that I mentioned previous, I believe their last name was Figliomeni, dead brother was Luciano, the alive one is Giordano, their father maybe made.
In Sicily, women are more dangerous than the shotgun.
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Re: accurate info on size of GTA 'ndrangheta
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According to Italian authorities in 2010 there were about 40 members total in the Toronto region. The Canadian board of control can have influence over the “entire ’Ndrangheta,†Italian authorities said last year. “The governing body of the Siderno branch no longer operates only in Calabria, transmitting orders abroad, but also does so directly on Canadian soil, to give it a more effective and efficient command structure,†Italian authorities said in court documents.
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Re: accurate info on size of GTA 'ndrangheta
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According to Italian authorities in 2010 there were about 40 members total in the Toronto region. Active members they mean. There is way more then 40 made men in Toronto lots are inactive
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Re: accurate info on size of GTA 'ndrangheta
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Found out about a prizefighter name Josh Hill, he is from Stoney Creek. https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/josh-hillHe is/was claiming that half his family is Musitano the other half Papalia. I looked into the Papalia side, seems to be BS. So I guess he and his family are Musitano? Whatever was suppose to happen in Hamilton after Rizzuto died failed, seems like whatever tie this guy has might of been who whacked Verducci. This Hill and father are both firemen as well, maybe part of the group with Desjardin, that were with the Scoppas till they got finished off. It’s been suggested to me that Giorgio Baressi, was either setup or murdered because of this cell? If it is even true!! There is a HA out in Stoney Creek as well, his kid was a boxer who didn’t use his last named, used his mother instead Riley. I think they call the dad Geo, anyways, might provide a link to add to the list of Calabrese in the Provincia. Josh hill is not italian. When did he say this? Do you have a link?
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