How they got convictions without a actual guy on the murder is crazy. Steve crea never talked to anyone about this guys murder. Purposely he owed madonna 100k. I see how he gets convicted by with crea because hes the underboss means every vice president of a outlaw motorcycle club must be guilty of murders the president tasked you get what I'm saying. In the end the Gov bent the rules but they got the W.

What does a woman have to do with anything? I wrote it based on facts.

I dont know I guessed it was a guy who wrote the article but somewhere towards the end you said you are a women. I dont know what the fuck my point was or where it was going sorreyy.

Well said,Dominick Crea.Law Enforcement uses more than just questionable tactics they are well above the law

J.c. fingerprints is all over this article

Thanks for writing this very informative article. When the trial started I was very interested to see how they tied the Meldish murder to Crea and Madonna. But weeks went by and all I read about were liars and screw-ups by the government. When they were convicted I just figured I missed something. You’ve shown that there was no evidence connecting them to the murder and not only that there was even evidence that it had nothing to do with them.

However, you do seem to take it one step further and imply that Crea et al have nothing to do with organized crime and that the government is targeting them for no reason. I have to ask, do you believe Steven L Crea is a totally legitimate citizen who isn’t a member of the mob?

I did not even focus on that. My focus was on the trial and the person being targeted - Crea - without supportive evidence. End of story. I am not digging into whether or not I believe someone is a member of a secret society which in itself is not a crime. A person would have to be caught committing illegal acts to be charged and as far as Crea is concerned that was not the case. No evidence tied him to the charged criminal acts.

The purpose of my story was not to identify memberships. It was simply to compare evidence versus charges and regardless of membership or not, in this country, you should be charged based on crimes committed not based on manufactured charges.

Another incredibly written, very well researched and informative article. Harvard Professor, and attorney Alan Dershowitz recently wrote a book titled 'Guilt By Accusation,' and in many ways his argument for the lack of fairness in both the media and Judicial system can be applied here. Unfortunate on all ends, and doesn't make society better for anyone. Perhaps Crea's attorneys will consult with Dershowitz for his appeal.

Did the guy foti testify?? He had some tapes if I remember reading think his brother was a luchese member from the bronx. I say that just because I think he would be closer to the situation then maybe some of the other turncoats and his age

He did. And he contradicted some of the stuff other informants said. Plus he was the one who brought up Londonio's uncle. I just didn't add that portion in. Was going to. Just never got back around to it.

All the informants contradicted each other basically.

His testimony mostly focused on Londonio. He said Londonio was made before the Meldish murder and another informant said it was after.

Sorry for the multiple posts. It's early still. But Foti had no relevance to Crea. The only two points as it relates to what I talked about is what I said above. He never spoke about or knew Crea. Like I said, his testimony was focused on Londonio

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so with the hit order in 2017 i would think that crea and his son r on the shelf/demoted no
michael de santis is the new ab 2017-
how does crea continue as ub while in jail on top of amuso not wanting him in that position???
would the assumed admin be permanent patrick del lorrusso ub and andrew desimone consigliere.

also there appears to be no faction inside the luccheses' that wants to take control.
amuso has no strong connections to any other family.
i recognize the tradition involved but if someone wanted to take control of the lucchese why do they continue to respect amuso in jail for LIFE.

Read Joseph Massino's court testimony. Bosses order murders. People like Meldish don't get murdered without approval from the leaders in the organisation. I have a cursory grasp of how RICO works and even I fucking get it.

I wonder what OP's opinion of this is. Does he think this corrupt cop should've been punished or is he one of the good ones because his corruption was benefiting the mob?

https://i.redd.it/c8lnq4ceff151.jpg

"MOE" it is very clear your position on this and how you feel evidence and facts of the case should have little impact on someone's level of guilt. So by your logic, jurors should skip all the lack of evidence, conflicting testimonies and convict based on a separate case's testimony from a witness? It is interesting to say the least your thought process and logic. Again, people with your mindset need not have the law and proceedings take place therefore a trial should not exist in the first place. Again, extremely telling argument and opinion. Bottom line is, a situation such as this does not appeal to your train of thought as the entire Justice system should be bypassed, arguments are mute and conviction should be made based on past theories and statements in general as opposed to factual information supported by, discovery and testimony displayed pre and during trial. That is your view and you are entitled to it. As I said no one is here to convince one side one way or another. The purpose of the journalist was to lay out the FACTS and have OPEN-MINDED, unbiased people review and digest.

From an FBI report. Get your facts straight

And seriously...your "source" of information is a news media report? See above for official documented evidence.

In addition here are two snippets from Gravano's 2018 affidavit regarding Frank Locascio which supports the above...

First of all, I'm on record as saying that Frank Locascio is the one guy who was hard done by on sentencing. I saw that FBI Report on reddit and it doesn't change my stance on that one bit. He should've went to prison but he also have been released by now. Those two things aren't mutually exclusive.

Second of all, #7 is the real smoking gun regarding this. What's quoted doesn't really prove anything one way or other unless the tape is released.

Sammy is a complete sociopath. I don't think he's taking this stance re: Locascio out of the goodness of his heart, or because he's had a change in conscience. I think he's doing it because he's angry at the government for sending him away for 17 years back in 2000. Even though it was his own fault and he ruined his second chance at freedom.

Before the 2000 case Sammy had a completely different take on Locascio and seemed indifferent, even amused, about his fortunes (or lack thereof). He wasn't pleading Locascio's innocence then, even though he had the platform

Again, why the sudden change of heart?

Obviously it’s clear the feds were dogshi* on this case and Steve crea shouldn’t be in on a murder charge. From everything I read their case is weak and stinks. Their witnesses contradict each other and/or are changing their stories at will, the judge seems biased, they moved it to a friendly court, moved it to a friendly judge. It’s just typical tactics as a prosecutor grows he/her career they have to get a decent BS mob case under their belt on their hunt for either political or private practice $ aspirations etc. Let’s not get it twisted it’s all a hustle. You think the lines weren’t blurred (right/wrong) in their conduct in this case you’re dreaming.

However it seems likely Madonna was an integral part of this hit? Thoughts anyone? Imagine the mindset of an 80something year old ordering hits?! Maybe they had some old beef from back in their babanya days. But weren’t Madonna in jail from 70s and was older then meldish by circa 20 yrs?

Also I read about that escape charge on londonio. Whichever prosecutor allowed that charge to be thrown in based on that witness needs slapping lol. They just threw mud at the wall with that one haha.

And that charge about some guys driving up to a house to do a hit and it never happening. The amount of proof on that is so minimal. Same with that lucchese guy who looked up some old rat (riggi cokehead in law who ran off with a stripper lol) he is serving some serious time on minimal evidence. As if that guy was gonna hit some old rat and get a death penalty charge, cmon. Guy shooting off steam because he got robbed hard.

If every thought and idle conversation was brought up against all of us like they have done and framed it in a sensational way we could put half of the world in jail haha.

What about the reality star Pedo witness (Zocchillio?) who was told to start dropping names into situations and conversations. He ain’t never met the creas lol. It’s all he told him who told him who told me.

Anyway that was my take. Laughable a lot of it but obviously not for the guys who got burnt and the actual heinous crime that was committed - the murder of meldish. Everyone has family, whether it’s the victims or wrongfully convicteds.

Crea is 1000% innocent. And it is revolting what the government is allowed to get away with. Londonio pure lunacy. Thanks for reading!!

https://thenewyorkmafia.com/steven-crea-innocent-meldish-murder/9/

To me this is the most compelling and frustrating part. There was wiretap evidence indicating that the word on the street was that another family was behind the killing of Meldish (do we know which one?) but the jury wasn't allowed to hear it. Baffling.

That means that even if one believes Crea was the underboss and in that role he was privy to all Lucchese family murder plots, the killing of Meldish wasn't actually carried out by the Luccheses.

There was a lot of information the jury didn't hear. And somewhere, I think when I talk about them trying to get Otto on the stand, the FBI didn't follow up on those leads regarding the other two families. So, there's a whole slew of things. In addition, one of my favorites is that these wired-up informants can record stuff but the jury isn't allowed to take what they said four years ago as truth...only their interpretation of it NOW in 2019. That doesn't even make any sense to me at all.

Meldish was not a well-liked guy which is why that quote is at the beginning from Siebel about the whole universe of people who had a problem with him.

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Nah. Quite frankly, you've beaten that horse to death. I try to go by the standard that if I don't like a post then the best option is to simply avoid it and move on but you're getting a little ridiculous with these theories. I see your username and almost instinctively look for malware removal software to download.