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Re: Why Was Michael Never Suspected?
[Re: olivant]
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09/19/20 10:53 PM
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Michael probably was suspected by both law enforcement and the underworld. Remember that at the Senate hearing Michael was asked if he orchestrated the Dons' murders. Yes, I'm sure they did. He had an airtight alibi, though, and I doubt the police would have been able to even question him. On the other hand, Connie suspected him. 
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Why Was Michael Never Suspected?
[Re: Lou_Para]
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09/20/20 10:59 PM
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Going strictly by the movie,who would be the head of the 5th Family?
Lou, that question was a source of endless discussion years ago. "The Five Families" is a phrase that's often mentioned in the novel, too. Some speculated that there was another NYC family that was never mentioned, some said (going by the novel only) that the fifth was the Bocchiccios. All we know from the movie is that the Five Families were Corleone, Tattaglia, Barzini, Cuneo and Stracchi. So, why did the Corleones refer to the "Five Families"? My guess is that it was a generic phrase they used to describe the NYC families, including theirs, rather than saying, "all the other families," or "we and the other families," or "the Commission" (which is never used either in the film or the novel).
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Re: Why Was Michael Never Suspected?
[Re: Irishman12]
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09/20/20 11:52 PM
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Turnbull, I always put the fifth Family in the same file as the"Michael Corleone says hello" quote,or God forbid, the "who opened the drapes" controversy (rumor has it there are ancient stone tablets with that question on them). I thought I might have missed something. Thanks for your feedback,and let me say that your knowledge of all things Godfather is freakin' amazing, BTW, among all of the things left out in the movie,and there were many,the lack of a good backstory on the Bocchiccios was a sad omission.But it could have been worse. At least we weren't subjected to the details of the "lady parts" surgery.or the whole Johnny/Nino snoozefest.
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Re: Why Was Michael Never Suspected?
[Re: Lou_Para]
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09/21/20 02:24 AM
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BTW, among all of the things left out in the movie,and there were many,the lack of a good backstory on the Bocchiccios was a sad omission.But it could have been worse. At least we weren't subjected to the details of the "lady parts" surgery.or the whole Johnny/Nino snoozefest.
Agree all the way, Lou. The Bocchiccios were the best of several great backstories in the novel. But, thank heaven we didn't get Lucy's surgery and Nino. I think Puzo included that in the novel because a) some lady friend or relative had had that surgery and he couldn't resist telling us about it in endless detail; and b) he spent a lot of time in Hollywood and couldn't resist telling us about it in endless detail, either. The Hollywood BS wrecks "The Last Don"; one of the reasons that the movie "Last Don" is so much better than the novel is that it omits the Hollywood crap.
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Re: Why Was Michael Never Suspected?
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09/22/20 12:17 AM
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Everyone obliged by being conveniently out in the open, for their easy killings There's a little thing in the novel, that just after the executions several opposing capos switched sides and joined the Corleones. I've assumed that this meant they had been turned beforehand, and possibly led their bosses to slaughter.
"All of these men were good listeners; patient men."
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Re: Why Was Michael Never Suspected?
[Re: mustachepete]
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09/24/20 12:14 AM
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Everyone obliged by being conveniently out in the open, for their easy killings There's a little thing in the novel, that just after the executions several opposing capos switched sides and joined the Corleones. I've assumed that this meant they had been turned beforehand, and possibly led their bosses to slaughter I doubt the “opposing capos†would have been in the know of “their bosses slaughter beforehand†I don't think anyone outside of Vito and Michael knew anything about the baptism murders, by design, even Tom was kept out of the loop Nobody was let in on, what Vito and Michael were planning until their need to know after the traitor [Tessio] revealed himself
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