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Re: What families are still left
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#1001609
12/17/20 02:24 PM
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To me, the families who are 100% still active are : The 5 families of NY, The DeCavalcante, The Bruno-Scarfo, The Patriarca and Chicago.
I believe Buffalo, Detroit, Pittsburgh and Cleveland have some made guys left but these families should be exctinct at some point.
Don't really know about KC and New Orleans.
Last edited by Malavita; 12/17/20 02:25 PM.
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Re: What families are still left
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12/21/20 10:42 AM
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chin_gigante
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To me, the families who are 100% still active are : The 5 families of NY, The DeCavalcante, The Bruno-Scarfo, The Patriarca and Chicago.
I believe Buffalo, Detroit, Pittsburgh and Cleveland have some made guys left but these families should be exctinct at some point.
Don't really know about KC and New Orleans. Pittsburgh only has one member left and Cleveland I think only has two or three
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Re: What families are still left
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12/21/20 11:17 AM
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Re: What families are still left
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12/21/20 01:57 PM
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They own hotels down there. They're big in gambling, loansharking and the legal weed market in Colorado. For the longest time this family was believed to be dead, but about 10-15 years ago they discovered through informants connected to the now defunct LA family that there was a presence in Denver. They are a very tight knit bunch Do you have the sources on that? curious.
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Re: What families are still left
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12/21/20 03:33 PM
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ralphie_cifaretto
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They own hotels down there. They're big in gambling, loansharking and the legal weed market in Colorado. For the longest time this family was believed to be dead, but about 10-15 years ago they discovered through informants connected to the now defunct LA family that there was a presence in Denver. They are a very tight knit bunch Do you have the sources on that? curious. I have my own, but I can tell you that Kenny Gallo has also confirmed this. Late LA capo Louis Caruso introduced Gallo to the boss of Denver. Caruso was said to be close with the boss I'm no fan of Gallo by the way, but he wasn't lying about Denver
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Re: What families are still left
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#1001980
12/25/20 07:47 AM
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They own hotels down there. They're big in gambling, loansharking and the legal weed market in Colorado. For the longest time this family was believed to be dead, but about 10-15 years ago they discovered through informants connected to the now defunct LA family that there was a presence in Denver. They are a very tight knit bunch Do you have the sources on that? curious. I have my own, but I can tell you that Kenny Gallo has also confirmed this. Late LA capo Louis Caruso introduced Gallo to the boss of Denver. Caruso was said to be close with the boss I'm no fan of Gallo by the way, but he wasn't lying about Denver There we have it folks. The mob in Denver is still thriving. Breaking news from credible source Kenji Gallo.
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Re: What families are still left
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#1001989
12/25/20 09:31 AM
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They own hotels down there. They're big in gambling, loansharking and the legal weed market in Colorado. For the longest time this family was believed to be dead, but about 10-15 years ago they discovered through informants connected to the now defunct LA family that there was a presence in Denver. They are a very tight knit bunch Do you have the sources on that? curious. I have my own, but I can tell you that Kenny Gallo has also confirmed this. Late LA capo Louis Caruso introduced Gallo to the boss of Denver. Caruso was said to be close with the boss I'm no fan of Gallo by the way, but he wasn't lying about Denver There we have it folks. The mob in Denver is still thriving. Breaking news from credible source Kenji Gallo. --- Lol.... there is NO Denver mob. In its heyday they were but a wist of a "crew" by comparison to the more solid borgatas across the country. In 2020?, they are not even a thing. There will always be crime, and guys who break the law. People like to gamble, etc., so there will always be fellas to book a be, etct. But a structured mob? No way! And for your information, Kenji Gallo is hardly a credible source. He was, and is, a blowhard. An Asian/American no less who was a half a drug dealer, independent schemer, porno movie hanger around. etc etc......and a born double-dealing, lying rat. In truth he was a half a pimp! He was NOT a "wiseguy" or even a solid "knockaround guy." Probably his biggest claim to fame (if thats what you wanna call it) was the fact that he had absolutely no morals at all. Zero. Even though he was breaking the law himself, he deemed it good to be a straight out "Rodent," an informer. He's lucky he lived in LA., because if they could have reached for him, guys in NYC would have hurt him. But it's not the "old days" and he got away with it. Like so many stool pigeons nowadays. Thats what he deserved. So I wouldn't even mention his name, because 90% that comes out of his mouth is all self-serving BS. (just like most informants). He makes himself out to be the smartest guy in the world. In reality, nothing could be further from the truth.
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Re: What families are still left
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#1002018
12/25/20 05:52 PM
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Denver, as far as structure, I dont see any. There are a handful of associates to the family that are still engaged in illegal activities, but since Colorado has allowed online gambling, there has been an increase of of said associates near the casinos, notably Broncos Billy's, they do have a small presence in Cripple Creek, Deuces Wild in Colorado Springs. Most of what you say are the descendants from the old family that are legitimate. There are associates from families outside Colorado who have been operating for over a decade in the state, Genovese, Gambino, Chicago, Decavalcante and Detroit have a small presence in the state. The legalization of Weed as people coming and going, the mob has staked a few claims on them. Gambino and Chicago are the only two that are working off and on with the cartels in the state. The Russians are on top as they have been "loaning" money to a few casinos to start up.
"I have this Nightmare. I'm on 5th avenue watching the St. Patrick's Day parade and I have a coronary and nine thousand cops march happily over my body." Chief Sidney Green
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Re: What families are still left
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#1002019
12/25/20 06:32 PM
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ralphie_cifaretto
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--- Lol.... there is NO Denver mob. In its heyday they were but a wist of a "crew" by comparison to the more solid borgatas across the country. In 2020?, they are not even a thing. There will always be crime, and guys who break the law. People like to gamble, etc., so there will always be fellas to book a be, etct. But a structured mob? No way!
And for your information, Kenji Gallo is hardly a credible source. He was, and is, a blowhard. An Asian/American no less who was a half a drug dealer, independent schemer, porno movie hanger around. etc etc......and a born double-dealing, lying rat. In truth he was a half a pimp!
He was NOT a "wiseguy" or even a solid "knockaround guy." Probably his biggest claim to fame (if thats what you wanna call it) was the fact that he had absolutely no morals at all. Zero. Even though he was breaking the law himself, he deemed it good to be a straight out "Rodent," an informer. He's lucky he lived in LA., because if they could have reached for him, guys in NYC would have hurt him. But it's not the "old days" and he got away with it. Like so many stool pigeons nowadays.
Thats what he deserved. So I wouldn't even mention his name, because 90% that comes out of his mouth is all self-serving BS. (just like most informants). He makes himself out to be the smartest guy in the world. In reality, nothing could be further from the truth.
You're wrong about Denver, but right about Kenji. He's a piece of shit and a liar, but he wasn't lying about Denver. It's not a big family by any means, but they do have structure and they have wealth. Much of what they're doing is legitimate, so LE isn't too concerned about them. But to say they're not there is inaccurate.
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Re: What families are still left
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12/25/20 07:36 PM
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--- Lol.... there is NO Denver mob. In its heyday they were but a wist of a "crew" by comparison to the more solid borgatas across the country. In 2020?, they are not even a thing. There will always be crime, and guys who break the law. People like to gamble, etc., so there will always be fellas to book a be, etct. But a structured mob? No way!
And for your information, Kenji Gallo is hardly a credible source. He was, and is, a blowhard. An Asian/American no less who was a half a drug dealer, independent schemer, porno movie hanger around. etc etc......and a born double-dealing, lying rat. In truth he was a half a pimp!
He was NOT a "wiseguy" or even a solid "knockaround guy." Probably his biggest claim to fame (if thats what you wanna call it) was the fact that he had absolutely no morals at all. Zero. Even though he was breaking the law himself, he deemed it good to be a straight out "Rodent," an informer. He's lucky he lived in LA., because if they could have reached for him, guys in NYC would have hurt him. But it's not the "old days" and he got away with it. Like so many stool pigeons nowadays.
Thats what he deserved. So I wouldn't even mention his name, because 90% that comes out of his mouth is all self-serving BS. (just like most informants). He makes himself out to be the smartest guy in the world. In reality, nothing could be further from the truth.
You're wrong about Denver, but right about Kenji. He's a piece of shit and a liar, but he wasn't lying about Denver. It's not a big family by any means, but they do have structure and they have wealth. Much of what they're doing is legitimate, so LE isn't too concerned about them. But to say they're not there is inaccurate. ----- Truth be told I'm not all that familiar with Denver, so it is possible that there is a small contingent of what we'd call "organized" criminals. Maybe even Italian-based organized criminals. Remnants of what at one time was considered "mafia" connected. But I "def" do not think that there is a "Family" structure out there. Or even a full sized "regime" as you and I would describe it. Individuals who may come from elsewhere and operate there. Yes, maybe. Do they know "people" or could they "reach" out for somebody? Possibly. But all in all, I seriously doubt a solid structure Ralphie.... Bookmakers?, card game operators?, drug guys?, shylocks? Yes, I'd say there certainly should be something. After all, Denver is a major city out that way right? And yes, we agree, Kenji was/is a blowhard.
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Re: What families are still left
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#1002100
12/26/20 02:04 PM
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Rat
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The clearest signs of a Crime Family on the ropes are age of active members, busts and how often they’re making guys.
From what we know pretty much all of the active guys for Chicago are 60-80 years old. With only about 15 active guys on the street.
Hardly anybody has been made the past 20 years and it’s not very often we get busts on Chicago guys.
It seems that for whatever reason, Chicago has basically decided that they’re done making guys and will let the family just ride out into the sunset.
Last edited by Rat; 12/26/20 02:05 PM.
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