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Re: John Alite
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12/30/20 11:11 PM
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Re: John Alite
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12/31/20 11:39 AM
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acketeering trial Monday, said he obtained $32,000 in credit from Gotti's alleged Mafia syndicate in the 1980s by claiming to be placing bets for the team's famous first baseman, Keith Hernandez, the New York Post reported.
Deluca said he was desperate enough at one point to ask Hernandez for a loan, and the Mets star allegedly came through with $7,000. But instead of giving it to Gotti, Deluca testified he blew the money in Atlantic City, N.J., casinos. He said Gotti's right-hand man, John Alite, allegedly broke Deluca's nose when he discovered the baseball star wasn't backing the debts and then brought Gotti to Deluca's house to meet with his parents.
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Re: John Alite
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12/31/20 02:04 PM
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John sr. would be embarrassed if he were alive to see Junior making websites to trash his enemy's because he's too afraid to take the guy on in person !! Alite hanging out in clubs in Queens ?? That must really piss of Junior, and all he can do about it is post garbage on a website... The guy is pushing 60 years old and still acts like a teenager !!
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Re: John Alite
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12/31/20 03:51 PM
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Definitely a tough guy more than capable of handling himself. Yes people feared him he had an extremely violent crew around him. Funny he’s not hiding and everyone talking smack would $hit themselves around him years ago. You don’t have to be Italian to have a good rep at handling yourself.
"You come at the king you best not miss"-Omar
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Re: John Alite
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12/31/20 07:10 PM
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I think this guy is 90% full of shit, he claims he was so tight with Sr that he slept on his couch, I don't believe I have seen A single pic of this guy with any of the Gotti crew or him at any of the Social clubs.
Yeah, Little Pussy. You think he's going to fuck with Big Pussy? My Pussy? Tony Soprano, 1999
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Re: John Alite
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01/01/21 11:36 AM
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I think this guy is 90% full of shit, he claims he was so tight with Sr that he slept on his couch, I don't believe I have seen A single pic of this guy with any of the Gotti crew or him at any of the Social clubs. He was def close with the Gottis. Talk to street guys about him. Mikey Scars and Sammy Gravano knew him both, and they're Brooklyn guys Gravano didn’t mention him once in his 302s and The only mention of him in Mikey Scars 302s was that he was in Jrs crew and Chased in 1991
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Re: John Alite
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01/01/21 02:27 PM
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He was a lowly associate who was largely utilized as a crash dummy by John Jr., and other "members." I'm sure when he was active he was well thought of by those associates. He does sound like he was a tough kid who would eagerly go and bat a guy, or perform other tasks as ordered. But he was no "star."
He was an Albanian from the neighborhood who's biggest clan to fame was dealing various drugs in order to make a living. He DIDN'T operate large lucrative gambling or shylock networks. He wasn't an overly intelligent and savvy hood who was being "groomed" for bigger things. He didn't operate at higher, more sophisticated levels in white collar type big money rackets. He was what he was. A tough kid who often acted without thinking for his own motives and those of Jr., and others, and operated at a "street level." He wasn't;t into legitimate business ventures, etc.
There is value in that. Guys like him may be a dime a dozen, but they are also needed to grease the wheels of the borgata. The more savvy goodfellas are not looking to pick up a bat and go out and whack somebody when they have guys around them like him to do it. Likewise, they don't encourage their sons and nephews to do it unless it's an extreme circumstance and cannot be helped.
Why should they? Thats why you have "position" in the first place. So you can send guys like this out to do it for you. It's called hierarchy.
And I agree with several posters on here who stated that it sounds like "sour grapes" on Alite's part that he continues this "babyish" tit-for-tat dialogue going about Gotti and his relationship. It's all petty trash talk. Hardly becoming the former "street guy" that he supposedly was.
When somebody talks that way incessantly, its gotta make you wonder what was really going on behind the scenes.
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Re: John Alite
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01/04/21 03:03 PM
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Alite was feared because he was part of Jr's crew.
Jr was so feared because of Sr.
That's the beginning, middle and end.
If Alite, wasn't aligned with Jr. by default/Sr.
He would have been just a street thug with balls, in Italian ghetto's street thugs with balls were a dime a dozen. They use a guy like him to pull the trigger call him in to congratulate him and snuff him out and put him in a trunk.
Nobody is going after any rats in 2021 not because Alite is so tuff, because they are scared of the heat.
His only worry would be some wanna be that wants to make a name for themselves.
Nobody on the admin of the Gambino family gives two shits about Alite. Simply put "He ain't worth the bullet"
N.Y. Mafia hit it on the head he was a lowly associate that's it.
It's funny I can tell you there were so many Alites, roaming the streets of Bensohhurst back in the day.... Walking around doing the enforcement work for the family...
Every crew had a few.
Yes they were scary, yes they were real- deal tuff guys to the average citizen...
When they came up against someone who was someone, they fell in line, or their body was dumped in th streets, for all the other "TUFF GUYS" to see.
A bunch of guys that were enforcers have written book however, they were more truthful about their status.
) Andrew DiDionati Larry Mazza Gunner Lindbloom Louis Farante
These guys are more truthful about their status as associates/enforcers for the family.
Alite is re-writing history.
He said on pod-cast recently that he was privy to info about the Castallno hit, that Sammy, didnt know about
He then went on to say that no one was charged with Castellano's murder.
Well no one except for Gotti Sr. that is.
That's how close Alite was with Sr. that he didn't know what he was convicted of.
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Re: John Alite
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01/05/21 10:18 PM
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Peter zuccaros trial testimony from the Vinny Asaro Trial
A When I first came home in 1988, Johnny Alite came to me 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Lisa S. Schwam, RPR, RMR, CRR Official Court Reporter ZUCCARO - DIRECT - ARGENTIERI 2067 about a problem they were having with him. Q Who is Johnny Alite? A He was John Gotti, Jr.'s, partner and an associate in the Gambino family. Q What did he tell you about the problem they were having with him? A That Johnny Gebert was pretty much a loose cannon running around doing whatever he liked to do; shooting places up, shooting people, selling drugs, not listening. Q What did he ask you to do? A Kill him. Q Did you agree? A Yes. (Continued on t
RONNIE ONE ARMS OPENING STATEMENT:
8 Also, they said in 1984, which I can't understand
9 why I'm here, it was Johnny Alite and John Gotti, Jr. If
10 that's where this Indictment started, why am I here?
11 Is there something wrong with that? I scratched
12 my head, okay Johnny Alite and John Gotti, Jr., started a
13 drug business. Okay, this is where we're building the
14 foundation of the house from.
15 They started the drug business. They worked in
16 the drug business
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Re: John Alite
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01/06/21 01:11 AM
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When Sr. was around he was feared by many, I dont think anyone would dispute that. If you messed with Jr. you messed with Sr. That was his son PERIOD.
So the point I was making was that Jr. was only feared because he was the son of Sr.
With that said I do not agree that he was treated as if he were a BAFOON.
According to Mikey Scars, Jr. was respected on the street by the other families when he took over after Sr. went away. If he was looked upon as a BAFOON, the heads of the other families would not have acknowledged him.
He sat with Barney and ordered him to kill one of his guys, because he thought the Genovese's killed Boriello. (That took balls).
Jr. than went to Boriello's brother and told him to go kill whoever you want from the Genovese the Gambino family will back you. (That took balls).
Jr was willing to go to war with the Genovese. (Who else was willing to go to war with them?)
Jr. plotted to whack Watts and Alite on separate occasions.
Angelo Prisco is on wire tap said he thought Jr. was good guy, Prisco was a CAPO with the Genovese, that was a complement to Jr.
The went head to head with the feds 4-times and BEAT THEM. he didn't cop a plea deal, and didn't give anyone up to get from under those charges that he was facing LIFE for.
All the while Alite and the feds were trying to frame him for murders he didn't commit.
Who do you know that took on the feds 4 times and won?
I dont know any gangster that went head to head 4 times with the feds.
Compared to his dad he could never walk a mile in Sr's shoe's he knows it and says it.
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Re: John Alite
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01/07/21 12:46 AM
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Alite was feared because he was part of Jr's crew.
Jr was so feared because of Sr.
That's the beginning, middle and end.
If Alite, wasn't aligned with Jr. by default/Sr.
He would have been just a street thug with balls, in Italian ghetto's street thugs with balls were a dime a dozen. They use a guy like him to pull the trigger call him in to congratulate him and snuff him out and put him in a trunk.
Nobody is going after any rats in 2021 not because Alite is so tuff, because they are scared of the heat.
His only worry would be some wanna be that wants to make a name for themselves.
Nobody on the admin of the Gambino family gives two shits about Alite. Simply put "He ain't worth the bullet"
N.Y. Mafia hit it on the head he was a lowly associate that's it.
It's funny I can tell you there were so many Alites, roaming the streets of Bensohhurst back in the day.... Walking around doing the enforcement work for the family...
Every crew had a few.
Yes they were scary, yes they were real- deal tuff guys to the average citizen...
When they came up against someone who was someone, they fell in line, or their body was dumped in th streets, for all the other "TUFF GUYS" to see.
A bunch of guys that were enforcers have written book however, they were more truthful about their status.
) Andrew DiDionati Larry Mazza Gunner Lindbloom Louis Farante
These guys are more truthful about their status as associates/enforcers for the family.
Alite is re-writing history.
He said on pod-cast recently that he was privy to info about the Castallno hit, that Sammy, didnt know about
He then went on to say that no one was charged with Castellano's murder.
Well no one except for Gotti Sr. that is.
That's how close Alite was with Sr. that he didn't know what he was convicted of.
Well said.
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