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Re: The Cotroni Regime of Montreal, Canada
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03/01/21 07:03 PM
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Great write up on the Cotroni family, Frank Sr. Would frequent Le Blanc restaurant while he was alive on Saturday nights. He was seen with Jimmy Rent a gun DeSantis having drinks and enjoying themselves a couple years before he passed. Definitely enjoyed his life to the fullest. I am too young to of seen Vic but from what I have heard he was a gentleman with impeccable manners. Keep up the good work guys!
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Re: The Cotroni Regime of Montreal, Canada
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03/01/21 07:48 PM
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Thank you, sir! One quick question though: did Angelo Bruno or Ray Patriarca ever deal with Vic Cotroni, or did they have to go through Bonanno/Galante in order to tap into Montreal?
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Re: The Cotroni Regime of Montreal, Canada
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03/01/21 10:54 PM
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Thank you, sir! One quick question though: did Angelo Bruno or Ray Patriarca ever deal with Vic Cotroni, or did they have to go through Bonanno/Galante in order to tap into Montreal? I don't have any info pointing to that. But traditionally, a capo di decina (which is what Vic Cotroni was), doesn't reach out to a boss of another family, especially one who isn't even in his general territory, but actually in another country like Patriarca and Bruno were. He needs to go through proper channels and contact his administration. They in turn would reach out to another boss if they even deemed Cotroni's request noteworthy enough. Thats proper protocol.
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Re: The Cotroni Regime of Montreal, Canada
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03/02/21 09:17 AM
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I think some of you dont understand how the heroin pipeline works Enlighten us Tony ... I for one am sincerely intrigued.... And @NYMafia ... Great piece ... I enjoyed that. Thank you.
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Re: The Cotroni Regime of Montreal, Canada
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03/02/21 09:28 AM
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I think some of you dont understand how the heroin pipeline works Enlighten us Tony ... I for one am sincerely intrigued.... And @NYMafia ... Great piece ... I enjoyed that. Thank you. Thank you DanD
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Re: The Cotroni Regime of Montreal, Canada
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03/02/21 09:38 AM
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I think some of you dont understand how the heroin pipeline works The Cotroni regime dealt with many mafia members, from many varied mafia families. But they DID NOT do it independently. And those fellas who dealt with them did not just decide they wanted to buy junk from Vic and Pepe so they reached out to them. It's called "protocol," The Cotoni's have NO authority to sell drugs to any "connected" guys unless the bosses of those borgatas gave the "ok" beforehand. Especially back in the 1940s, 1950, 1960s, era, when Cosa Nostra had a tight regimen and lines of authority. THATS how any given Mafia pipeline worked. What do you think? Joe Beck Di Palermo, Big John Ormento, Carlie Di Pietro, etc., did it on their own? Without the ok from their skippers or family boss? It works the exact same way even back in Sicily. The Sicilian crews who ferried babania to their American and Canadian cousins. It was NOT done catch-as-catch-can. But a well orchestrated conspiracy through previous agreements and handshakes. AFTER the bosses and crew leaders of each varied crew approved their men to do so. Mafiosi are not "independents" in that regard. How do you think they've lasted hundreds of years? By being wild and "doing their own thing?" They would have been found in car trunks, asap.
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Re: The Cotroni Regime of Montreal, Canada
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03/02/21 10:33 AM
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I think some of you dont understand how the heroin pipeline works The Cotroni regime dealt with many mafia members, from many varied mafia families. But they DID NOT do it independently. And those fellas who dealt with them did not just decide they wanted to buy junk from Vic and Pepe so they reached out to them. It's called "protocol," The Cotoni's have NO authority to sell drugs to any "connected" guys unless the bosses of those borgatas gave the "ok" beforehand. Especially back in the 1940s, 1950, 1960s, era, when Cosa Nostra had a tight regimen and lines of authority. THATS how any given Mafia pipeline worked. What do you think? Joe Beck Di Palermo, Big John Ormento, Carlie Di Pietro, etc., did it on their own? Without the ok from their skippers or family boss? It works the exact same way even back in Sicily. The Sicilian crews who ferried babania to their American and Canadian cousins. It was NOT done catch-as-catch-can. But a well orchestrated conspiracy through previous agreements and handshakes. AFTER the bosses and crew leaders of each varied crew approved their men to do so. Mafiosi are not "independents" in that regard. How do you think they've lasted hundreds of years? By being wild and "doing their own thing?" They would have been found in car trunks, asap. That was great! I recently heard of new Sicilians in Ontario, asking or seeking out current people in Ontario, prior to entering 'coin operated' businesses. It most definitely is a system of business, any of the regions of Southern Italy can more than likely trace themselves to that system from 1931 on IMO. Also, wasn't Frank Controni involved in Prize Fighting, via Eddie Melo? As well, as using Corsican Hitman Real Simard? I believe a Controni was also killed in the Montreal Biker War, by the Rock Machine. https://www.pressreader.com/canada/toronto-star/20051003/282033322586997
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Re: The Cotroni Regime of Montreal, Canada
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03/02/21 12:42 PM
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The entire reason for the "no drugs" policy in the mafia is because the American/Italian mafia controlled most of the heroin TRAFFICKING on earth, and didn't want pissant $ attention bringing down their global network.
Its not coincidence that the entire leadership from Genovese to Riina across the world was involved in this.
The American mafia pretends the Cuba thing was about Castro and gambling and casinos but the reality is that Castro changed the entire drug trafficking landscape and forced many traffickers now to use Mexico > US instead of Cuba > US.
You may notice the Cubans got cut out of the global cocaine trade and now the Mexicans control almost all cocaine moving into America. That was another result of Castro locking down his country when Bautista had everything available if you could pay $
Once the Cuban path was shut, the Mafia focused most of its attention on bringing product in over the NY/Canada border and therefore you saw the Cotroni's etc and the motorcyle gangs working together to insure this. People like Badalementi were still moving tons of product via South America into the US until they came into conflict with 'other traffickers', in Badalementi's case it was more complex than that having problems with the Italian mafia itself.
The consequence to this was the American mafia does not control the cocaine trade in the way they do the heroin trade.
It is still in existence today as the mafia pays their political and media connections to complain 24/7 about the southern border while bringing entire states full of coke and heroin over the northern one.
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Re: The Cotroni Regime of Montreal, Canada
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03/02/21 02:30 PM
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The reason why the families had a "no drugs" rule, was because they didn't wanna have a wide open rep they were drug dealers. After all, it's a dirty business. Especially back in that 1950s-1960s conservative era. Also, because of the long jail terms they didn't wanna have the bulk of their membership dealing, fucking up, getting pinched, and maybe turning rat to save themselves.
So, they allowed small contingents of their membership to "deal" with the approval of the bosses.
From the 1940s forward, Europe was a main supplier to the Americas'. Mexico was active in the 1930s, and later in the later 1950s-early 60s' also. But they provided "brown" heroin. Europe produced the "white" powder, and was their main supplier from the Middle East sources. Heroin manufactured by the French/Corsican, and Sicilians, was the main product.
Cocaine was NOT a big product for them until the early 1970s. Some guys handled it, but it was not popular yet, like it became in the 1970s-forward.
As you say, Cuba was also a main route into the southern states such as Miami and Tampa. For further transportation up to northeast and the rest of the country. But there were many ways to enter the states, and Canada was always a prime transport point.
And the Cotroni mob dominated these routes for years. They weren't the only ones, but the were the primary crew who moved the junk from there.
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Re: The Cotroni Regime of Montreal, Canada
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10/14/24 11:49 AM
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Re: The Cotroni Regime of Montreal, Canada
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10/15/24 07:30 AM
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She died last Friday, October 11 at the age of 77. Here is her mothers's obituary COTRONI SEMINARO Antonietta 1923-1997 In Montreal, on August 27, 1997, at the age of 73, passed away Mrs. Antonietta Seminaro, widow of Mr. Giuseppe Cotroni. She leaves to mourn her children, Rosina (Antonio Massarelli), Marie (Claudio Luca), as well as Santina Gugliemetti and George Hrizin, her grandchildren, Yvan (Cristina), Joey, Nicky, Alessandro, Chiara and Olivia, and her great-grandchildren, Anthony and Claudia. She also leaves to mourn her sister, Assunta (Filippo Chine); her brother-in-law, Frank Cotroni, her sister-in-law, Marguerite Luca, her nieces, Linda and Gloria, as well as other nieces, nephews and many other relatives and friends. On display at the show: ALFRED DALLAIRE INC. 1120 JEAN-TALON EST MONTREAL Thursday and Friday, August 28 and 29, from 2 to 5 p.m. and from 7 to 10 p.m. as well as Saturday, August 30 at 8:30 a.m. The funeral will take place on Saturday, August 30, at 9:30 a.m., at the Notre-Dame-de-la-Défense church, 6800 Henri-Julien, and from there the procession will go to the Notre-Dame-des-Neiges cemetery.
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