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Re: Sammy says Gotti paid Ab for... [Re: Louiebynochi] #1007116
03/13/21 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Louiebynochi
Originally Posted by ralphie_cifaretto
Originally Posted by Louiebynochi
Originally Posted by ralphie_cifaretto
It was recanted!!! Not only that, even John Gotti, Jr. has doubted the Watts story. Why the fuck do you think the Gambinos were still meeting with Watts after this bogus story came out? You think they're cool with rats? This was investigated thoroughly. F. Lee Bailey has denied this, Bruce Mouw has denied this, and of course Watts himself.


Your on an Internet forum trying to act like a tough guy, it makes you look like a little kid that lives in his mothers basement...When is the last time you actually got some pussy? And show me where it was recanted? Wiseguys ignore the truth all the time especially when it comes to someone with big money...Watts or his F Lee Bailey denying he’s a rat means nothing. FF Lee Bailey denied OJ did it! What do you expect him to say that he was a rat for 13 months?


I've never claimed to be a tough guy or drowning in pussy like you. Haha why do I get the feeling you're a virgin. What an odd thing to bring up. How old are you? lol


I’m 35 and idk bout drowning in pussy but I do bang my girl...


You're 35!!!! lol lol I haven't heard people talk like this since high school. Let me guess, this is your first girlfriend haha

Re: Sammy says Gotti paid Ab for... [Re: Tonytough] #1007119
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I’ve have plenty of girlfriends over the years and my girl is the kind of woman that you only dream about fucking.and I’m talking like this cause someone you don’t know your defending and your screaming and getting pissed off that someone posted FACTS that prove he was an fbi informant and not once have you posted any facts back

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A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/
Re: Sammy says Gotti paid Ab for... [Re: Tonytough] #1007127
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Please show me the retraction by Capeci
This is the only thing about it on Gangland

The New York Daily News
Dec. 1, 1996



GOTTI PAL AN FBI MOLE

By Jerry Capeci

joewatts.jpg (9084 bytes)A one-time top lieutenant for John Gotti lived a dangerous double life as mob mole for the FBI, the Daily News has learned.

Joseph Watts served as an informer for about 13 months until early last year, sources said.

Watts, 55, had hoped to avoid jail time with his balancing act, but ultimately he and his FBI handlers became disenchanted with the arrangement.

The deal collapsed and Watts is serving six years in prison after pleading guilty to disposing of the body of a Gambino mobster. He is also awaiting trial for a Gotti-ordered murder in 1987 and could be sentenced to 25 years to life if convicted.

Watts's lawyer, James LaRossa, said:"Joe Watts absolutely denies being an informer for anybody." LaRossa cited the feds numerous cases against Watts, and said, "and now he's facing 25 years to life."

But his work as a Mafia mole was pieced together from interviews with law enforcement officials, underworld sources, defense lawyers and other investigative sources. Most of the court records are sealed.

In 1993, Watts was charged with taking part in killing Thomas (Tommy Sparrow) Spinelli. Also indicted were five Gambino mobsters.

In the same indictment, Watts was also charged with three other mob slayings, including that of godfather Paul Castellano.

Federal prosecutor Geoffrey Mearns suggested to defense lawyers that the government would consider relatively lenient jail terms of seven years if the defendants would plead guilty.

After numerous meetings, all the defendants except Watts agreed.

Having secretly cut his own deal, Watts publicly vowed to fight the case for himself, and for Gotti, by exposing the chief witness, mob turncoat Salvatore (Sammy Bull) Gravano, as a liar.

When another defendant said he'd fight, too, Watts reportedly said, "No good … The feds won't go for the deal … They don't really care about me. I'm not Italian."

In April 1994, the mobsters pleaded guilty and were sentenced to seven years. Watts was scheduled for trial in August.

The setting of a trial date was a charade in which Watts, his lawyer F. Lee Bailey, federal prosecutors Mearns and Laura Ward played roles, sources said.

In secret meetings, Bailey, Watts, prosecutors and FBI agents, including Gambino squad supervisor Bruce Mouw, agreed to a deal in which Watts would work as an FBI informer in return for no jail time.

Bailey, Watts, Mearns, Ward and Mouw would not discuss the case.

Valerie Caproni, chief of the Brooklyn U.S. attorney's Criminal Division, said, "We do not confirm or deny whether individuals are or are not informants."

But, sources said, Watts provided key information to the FBI. He detailed how Gotti sent instructions to his acting boss son, John A. (Junior) Gotti, from the federal prison in Marion, Ill., through visits and phone calls.

Once, Watts told the FBI, he spoke to the elder Gotti for about 15 minutes when the crime boss called a lawyer, according to sources.

Watts identified three capos — Peter Gotti, John (Jackie Nose) D'Amico and Nicholas (Little Nick) Corozzo — who assisted Junior and also met regularly with the Genovese family to iron out problems over joint rackets, sources said.

The information was used to keep Gotti in virtual isolation at Marion for longer than the usual three years.

Last week, The News revealed that Gotti's rule is all but over: Corozzo has been tapped to lead the Gambino crime family once the don's current appeal is exhausted.

But Watts has neither freedom nor power.

After a prolonged dispute over the nature of his deal, he went to trial in February on the 1993 indictment. He interrupted the trial to plead guilty to disposing of the body and was sentenced to six years in prison last June.


A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/
Re: Sammy says Gotti paid Ab for... [Re: Tonytough] #1007130
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Check my other post not only was there absolutely no retraction by capeci but he reported on it again in 2006 and is the reason Jr Gotti named him in his proffer session and all of this is contained in fbi documents. They’re devious ruthless people idk why you think telling on theyre enemies would be out of bounds


A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/
Re: Sammy says Gotti paid Ab for... [Re: Tonytough] #1007159
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Typical Junior Gotti..Too cowardly to take on Watts himself, so he goes to the feds to get him !!

Re: Sammy says Gotti paid Ab for... [Re: Louiebynochi] #1007168
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Gotti jr is a rat bastard who dewerves his throat slit

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Re: Sammy says Gotti paid Ab for... [Re: tonytheant] #1007205
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Originally Posted by tonytheant
Gotti jr is a rat bastard who dewerves his throat slit


Haha I wish Sr. had been alive to see his son talk about having a "weak moment"

Re: Sammy says Gotti paid Ab for... [Re: Tonytough] #1007215
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Honestly I think Gene Gotti is easily the most respected Gotti in mob circles past and present. All the other ones were weak links even John in many ways

Re: Sammy says Gotti paid Ab for... [Re: JCrusher] #1007216
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Originally Posted by JCrusher
Honestly I think Gene Gotti is easily the most respected Gotti in mob circles past and present. All the other ones were weak links even John in many ways


If John Gotti wouldnt be the boss apart he and Gene no other Gottis would be made.

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