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Re: Saddest story when a civilian was a mob victim?
[Re: TonyBombassolo]
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11/07/21 01:47 PM
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SO the story is made up, it's from Steve Dunleavy, who never let the truth get in the way or his stories. How many times did Wiseguys rape you??? Are you Arlene Brickman??? How many abortions did you have by the age of 25??? After the 5th or so time, did you start to enjoy it??? Half this forum glorifies mobsters who were raping pieces of shit why does this surprise you that they are still being stupid meatball neckbeards? they always will be there are those who study the mafia to insure it never happens again in any culture and those who study it because they secretly (or not so) idolize that lifestyle because its been glorified in hollywood etc 99% of the mafia guys from 1900 on were 100% pieces of shit You sound crazy, and very wrong.
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Re: Saddest story when a civilian was a mob victim?
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12/27/21 01:22 AM
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Louiebynochi
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Accidental killings of civilians are tragic, but you are all trying to run up the numbers by coming Italian and Americn Mafia killings, and including suspect ones, like Schuster, who may have been killed by others besides Albert A. The nun and the 2 innocents killed in Brooklyn were awful, the cop killing was wrong, but was that a mob killing or one wiseguy doing it on the sneak without approval? Favara was an asshole and may have deserved it. Since Jace requested proof here it is in his own sick words
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Re: Saddest story when a civilian was a mob victim?
[Re: DillyDolly]
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12/27/21 02:50 PM
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TonyBombassolo
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Moe Tilden, a rat is a rat, you don't have to be in the mob to be a rat, snitch, tattletale, and all the above. Arnold Schuster should've minded his own damn business, out snitching on people who are just trying to cut some corners and get their place around the big table, just because he's a working stiff square too afraid to go out on a limb and do anything about his shitty life. I am not in the least bit saddened by his demise. Mind your business and keep your nose where it belongs. And that's if the story is even true. there are levels to ratting imo but I agree a rat is a rat but by your logic youd be OK with the two rats on this forum being whacked? I dont agree there so odd you arent raging this exact statement in another current thread tho
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Re: Saddest story when a civilian was a mob victim?
[Re: NYMafia]
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12/27/21 03:51 PM
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You're are nothing but a sad little clown and a born rodent...Period! And now I gotta put you on my "pay no mind list" where you rightfully belong. Look at you calling people a rodent when you and your partner are nothing but fucking rats....go back to your sewer you fucking rat, you and your partner have been exposed for the rats you are, I think and others think your secretly Jeff Lowman, so on that note go write another letter to a judge....
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Re: Saddest story when a civilian was a mob victim?
[Re: JCrusher]
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12/27/21 04:55 PM
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I see that my words really "struck an angry cord" with you "my little would-be tough guy?" Or should I say "our little kumquat?" Lol, I thought it would.
You and your little girlfriend (in fact, both handles are really only you) is the last person in this world that anyone on this forum needs to "prove" anything to.
You are a constant insulting thorn in the side of many members here; Friend of Henry, Jace, Mamaluke, Dilly Dolly, Mafia Student, and at least a dozen others who are forced to tolerate your daily unsolicited insults and abuse. I think that it's high time that you stop it.
It may not mean much to a heathen like you, but as I posted days ago it is the "Christmas Season" and clearly unlike you and your girlfriend most of us here have productive and fulfilling lives. We don't need to hear the constant garbage you spew.
So Stop It Now! If not, I suspect that you will eventually meet your permanent Waterloo here on this forum.
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Re: Saddest story when a civilian was a mob victim?
[Re: NYMafia]
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12/27/21 05:00 PM
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I see that my words really "struck an angry cord" with you "my little would-be tough guy?" Or should I say "our little kumquat?" Lol, I thought it would.
You and your little girlfriend (in fact, both handles are really only you) is the last person in this world that anyone on this forum needs to "prove" anything to.
You are a constant insulting thorn in the side of many members here; Friend of Henry, Jace, Mamaluke, Dilly Dolly, Mafia Student, and at least a dozen others who are forced to tolerate your daily unsolicited insults and abuse. I think that it's high time that you stop it.
It may not mean much to a heathen like you, but as I posted days ago it is the "Christmas Season" and clearly unlike you and your girlfriend most of us here have productive and fulfilling lives. We don't need to hear the constant garbage you spew.
So Stop It Now! If not, I suspect that you will eventually meet your permanent Waterloo here on this forum.
So in the face of proof your only response was to call me a “Kumquat”...Real Original...Tell me more Great man so I can become a beast at this game, just like you!
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Re: Saddest story when a civilian was a mob victim?
[Re: JCrusher]
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12/27/21 05:18 PM
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I really dont understand the vitriol on this site. I see a few posters like NYMafia that post alot of good, interesting content here. I assume we are all here because we share an interest in gangster/mafia history and current events. Yet there seem to be a small group of very angry, insulting posters who attack people, they particularly attack NYMafia, with alot of really uncalled for hatred.
Its bizarre. Most times I dont know exactly what I am witnessing here. If you hate the guy that much, ignore him. Why should it bother YOU if he has opinions and outlooks that you dont agree with? And why would you put that much energy into verbally attacking an anonymous guy on a small website like this?
Sometimes you have to take an honest look at what the hell youre doing and admit there is something wrong with the behavior.
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Re: Saddest story when a civilian was a mob victim?
[Re: Giacomo_Vacari]
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12/27/21 07:34 PM
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TonyBombassolo
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Lou, you made your point, now stop. NYmafia, if I was a judge and you were in my courtroom, I would order you to psychiatric treatment. For now all parties stop. This is spilling in every thread which is ridiculous. At this point, if Geoff wants to shut OCRL down, I'll go along with it and that will be that. I agree with this also. Good post.
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Re: Saddest story when a civilian was a mob victim?
[Re: Louiebynochi]
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12/27/21 09:46 PM
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Lou, you made your point, now stop. NYmafia, if I was a judge and you were in my courtroom, I would order you to psychiatric treatment. For now all parties stop. This is spilling in every thread which is ridiculous. At this point, if Geoff wants to shut OCRL down, I'll go along with it and that will be that. I’ll stop your absolutely 100% right on everything you said, let’s get back to civility and talk about OC...There is no civility with you, Louiebynochi quotes: "Jace does your husband or man speak to you that way?" "Your a bi polar whore, who should only be allowed to open its mouth when cock is being placed in it or your asking “whites or colors first daddy”
You are a disgrace to this site, and you want me banned?? You talking civility is a joke.
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Re: Saddest story when a civilian was a mob victim?
[Re: DillyDolly]
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12/28/21 07:13 AM
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The_Premier
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Oh boy, everyone is in such a tear-jerking snowflakey mindstate, mob life isn't all unicorns and rainbows you know. I'm sure lots of innocents die in wars that are based on lies propagated to us by a controlled mainstream media as well. Not me. They are hard men that play hard games. Some are there for the money. Some are there for the violence. A small few will do what it takes to live outside the law. None of them admirable, but most of them very interesting even if you wouldn’t want your daughter near one
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Re: Saddest story when a civilian was a mob victim?
[Re: JCrusher]
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The small kid that was accidentally killed by Mad Dog Coll and his crew during a shootout and also the neighborhood doctor from the St Valentine's Day massacre.
. Very good examples Thanks. Also we must define the term "civilian" because I see some people still believe that Chicago's Daniel Seifert was allegedly an honest businessman. The reality is that he wasnt but instead, he was an official Outfit associate of the Grand Avenue crew, meaning he was connected and paid the price for it. We also have another type of so-called "civilians" like Estelle Carey. She was the girlfriend of a made member and so she possibly hung around most of the dangerous fellas, meaning she was also "playing with fire" and in the end she also paid the ultimate price. The same thing happened to the doctor from the St. Valentine's Day massacre, meaning he was hanging around with gangsters who at the same time were involved in the most brutal conflict, meaning he was also asking for it. There are also another type of "civilians" who worked legally but were naïve and didnt understand that their coworkers were in fact associated with the Outfit. Such example was the 1976 murder of Rita Payonk. Sources say that she began realizing that some of her colleagues were making shady deals and so she had to be eliminated. In the end, the investigators connected Payonk’s murder to the narcotics business since some of the employees were involved in the scheme. You can read about that particular case in the Mobile Catering Business article which can be found at the Button Guys site.
Mongol General: Conan, what is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
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Re: Saddest story when a civilian was a mob victim?
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01/15/24 08:23 AM
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The small kid that was accidentally killed by Mad Dog Coll and his crew during a shootout and also the neighborhood doctor from the St Valentine's Day massacre.
. Very good examples Thanks. Also we must define the term "civilian" because I see some people still believe that Chicago's Daniel Seifert was allegedly an honest businessman. The reality is that he wasnt but instead, he was an official Outfit associate of the Grand Avenue crew, meaning he was connected and paid the price for it. We also have another type of so-called "civilians" like Estelle Carey. She was the girlfriend of a made member and so she possibly hung around most of the dangerous fellas, meaning she was also "playing with fire" and in the end she also paid the ultimate price. The same thing happened to the doctor from the St. Valentine's Day massacre, meaning he was hanging around with gangsters who at the same time were involved in the most brutal conflict, meaning he was also asking for it. There are also another type of "civilians" who worked legally but were naïve and didnt understand that their coworkers were in fact associated with the Outfit. Such example was the 1976 murder of Rita Payonk. Sources say that she began realizing that some of her colleagues were making shady deals and so she had to be eliminated. In the end, the investigators connected Payonk’s murder to the narcotics business since some of the employees were involved in the scheme. You can read about that particular case in the Mobile Catering Business article which can be found at the Button Guys site. . Sure absolutely there are definitely those who are kind of associated with them although we’ve also seen from examples people in this thread that there are also a good amount who has nothing to do with the life who got killed.
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Re: Saddest story when a civilian was a mob victim?
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The small kid that was accidentally killed by Mad Dog Coll and his crew during a shootout and also the neighborhood doctor from the St Valentine's Day massacre.
. Very good examples Thanks. Also we must define the term "civilian" because I see some people still believe that Chicago's Daniel Seifert was allegedly an honest businessman. The reality is that he wasnt but instead, he was an official Outfit associate of the Grand Avenue crew, meaning he was connected and paid the price for it. We also have another type of so-called "civilians" like Estelle Carey. She was the girlfriend of a made member and so she possibly hung around most of the dangerous fellas, meaning she was also "playing with fire" and in the end she also paid the ultimate price. The same thing happened to the doctor from the St. Valentine's Day massacre, meaning he was hanging around with gangsters who at the same time were involved in the most brutal conflict, meaning he was also asking for it. There are also another type of "civilians" who worked legally but were naïve and didnt understand that their coworkers were in fact associated with the Outfit. Such example was the 1976 murder of Rita Payonk. Sources say that she began realizing that some of her colleagues were making shady deals and so she had to be eliminated. In the end, the investigators connected Payonk’s murder to the narcotics business since some of the employees were involved in the scheme. You can read about that particular case in the Mobile Catering Business article which can be found at the Button Guys site. . Sure absolutely there are definitely those who are kind of associated with them although we’ve also seen from examples people in this thread that there are also a good amount who has nothing to do with the life who got killed. Yes, I completely agree.
Mongol General: Conan, what is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
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