I was listening to his latest podcast and I almost fell off my chair laughing. He tells his listeners the mob does’nt offer any pensions benefits or retirement accounts. You could of fooled me, i always thought the mob gave out pensions and health benefits once you were made and you also got 2 weeks paid vacation every year.

I would have loved to been in the room when his boy told him he shoved Spero.

Can only imagine what his response was.

Also, would ask him if he ever crossed paths with the 1 guy from the crew that DID get made?
If so, were they cool with each other?

calco was never made

I stand corrected

I thought the Bonanno's made him.

I guess it was just the "HERDER" that was made

Yes he was an associate, they were all big drug dealers

He was on the level of an Alite he was a SHOOTER.

They were a big crew with a bunch of shooters that sold alot of drugs

I like his podcast, but I do have an issue with the lecture on cooperation. He did 6 years straight (they're his crimes); he's indicted and arrested again not long after being paroled; for crimes he committed, prior, but not arrested. When made men are cooperating, you decide it's ok to cooperate. A' La' John Alite: these are your crimes; no one made you do it; you owe the time to the people and OC has nothing to do with your debt to society. More excuses to cooperate. He may not like my posts as I reminded him that while Joe Gambino may prepare tasty prison pasta, he also skipped bail with his brother leaving friends and families at the claws of bail bondmen seeking to confiscate their life savings. More concerning is the reference to the violence in the neighborhood. Yes, I'll believe the senseless killings that took place, but what about the hundreds of peer teenagers that did their homework, took up a trade or went to college? More excuses! Just say I'm a rat to save myself. I couldn't help but acknowledge certain tough guys, through reputation he noted, while reminding him that they had to outsource their wet work to the AB. The same men he references doing life did not mirror his decision of citing other cooperators and doing the same.

Who had to outsource their wet work to the AB? And what do you mean by wet work? To be honest, it shouldn't be a surprise that mobsters would contract work in prison to prison gangs like the AB, the Mafia isn't a prison gang, they're clearly outnumbered. It only makes sense to turn to the ones who actually run prison. I don't care how tough a guy is nobody is any match for 15 guys stomping you into the ground. Most "fights" in prison aren't really fights at all, it's jumpings and stompings.

Vincent Pappa murdered by the AB. The mafia, like the HA, were shaken down. If you're a white man in prison and seeking protection you pay the AB. If you stand on your own in a group, you are still reporting to the AB via one of their puppet gangs. That means, when the whites jump, you jump, or else. You don't do rackets in the can unless you're pay off a white gang; and a piece of that makes its way to the Brand. I won't go through this again as I did with those mafia nostalgic posters and Black Hand. Twenty Brand members will shred a crime family: In and Out of Prison.

The AB murdered Pappa. As Jimmy Calandra noted in a response to me, the AB sat behind them - "strong". No way in hell you are a white man hiring blacks on the yard to kill another white. Wake up. Most all LCN's hits - Lucchese and Gambinos - executed by the AB, including Billy Bright. Not up for going back and forth on this as its hard to get this omnipotent view of the Italian mafia out of the minds of posters. Like every white man on the Lewisburg yard at that time, it's the AB; they controlled every racket and every gang that was doing anything.

I agree. He makes it sound like it was the wild west and everyone was shooting, stabbing, and seliing drugs like some violent video game. I knew a few people from that area who were a little older than him and they never mention violence and crime. They did say the mob was around but “ they kept to themselves”. Everyone I knew from there mention hanging out, cruising 86th st, and playing baseball and street hockey.
According to Calandra, Bath Beach was more violent than Iraq.