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Yakuza Organizations #1014610
06/26/21 09:21 PM
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Just wondering if anyone is interested in this. Of the Yakuza organizations out there, I find the Kyosei-kai of Hiroshima, Japan an interesting one.


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Re: Yakuza Organizations [Re: Giacomo_Vacari] #1014633
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Read the book by Peter Hill called, The Japanese Mafia it is well worth it...

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There's a great documentary on YouTube where Oyabuns are interviewed. It's almost essentially over for the clans. One Oyabun complained he needed an old man to go do a piece of work; no one else younger had it in them to murder.

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Yakuza has never been known as murderous, they hurt people but only in very very rare cases kill. Intimidation is enough for them to spread fear and maintain dominance.

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Agreed and that's why so much push-back to the most recent chronicles by an American reporter. As one reviewer stated, the crime rate in Japan is almost negligible to most all other nations; hence, the reporter is grossly exaggerating and colorizing.

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I find Yakuza movies more violent than the Yakuza; and of course more glamorous (as often the case, in general).

Re: Yakuza Organizations [Re: Giacomo_Vacari] #1014701
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I like reading about the Yakuza world.

But right now, i’m trying to find more infos on the Hangure.
For those who dont know, Hangure is the term used in Japan to
call japanese criminal organizations that are not Yakuza.
The Hangure are getting stronger, and they are younger than
Yakuza members.

Because of the laws against Yakuza members, the Yakuza are
Getting weaker. And young criminals dont want to be part of the Yakuza
Because of the many rules. So they form their own gangs, which the media call
Hangure

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Re: Yakuza Organizations [Re: Giacomo_Vacari] #1014703
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Also, I wonder if the chinese triads or chinese gangs have a presence in Japan.
And if they do, how they operate with the Yakuza

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Sam Gor, a syndicate or alliance between chinese triads and chinese gangs are doing buisness with some Yakuza clan.

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Originally Posted by Blackmobs
Also, I wonder if the chinese triads or chinese gangs have a presence in Japan.
And if they do, how they operate with the Yakuza


They have had a presence in Japan for awhile. Chinese and Koreans born in Japan have joined the Yakuza in the past, Koreans making up about 25 percent of Yakuza membership and Chinese making up about 5 percent, again those born in Japan. With the anti Yakuza laws, Korean mafia, and the Dragons have become stronger in Japan. They have taken action from the Yakuza cause the Yakuza can't control like they use to. Osaka is a great example, before the anti Yakuza laws, they owned the entire entertainment center in the city, after that, they now control roughly 40 percent and it is getting smaller each year. The Dragons have gained allegedly 20 percent of that center, maybe more which is unprecedented back in the day. As I stated of the Hangure Organizations, the Dragons and Koreans are the strongest, with the Vietnamese, and Thai following up. The Russians also have a very small presence in Japan which blew me away, as they have had key members in key positions mainly around ports, but they have a couple of gangs inland which is surprising as the Yakuza would allow a member inland to serve as a liaison between the groups, but have 30 to 40 members inland is a shock.

I see the numbers dwindling for the Yakuza, but compared those with members that have gone to the police station and said they are retired, there is still thousands, my count is a little over six thousand and counting that have not said they are retired, but have not been active on the streets for awhile, and nearly twice that are said to be semi active with the gangs, but are not consider to be full members for some reason. I admit my data is outdated but since Covid hit, I have not been able to gather any relevant data, last heard was that four Yakuza OC squads were shutting operations down in their cities and shifting to the Dragons and Koreans to investigate them. This was in the summer of 2019 when I heard this.


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Nice infos

I read some articles that mentions the Dragons.
So the Dragons are mainly a chinese gang in Japan?


Its crazy how we think that an organization is the only criminal group
In a country. Many people think that only the Yakuza are present in Japan,
but you have many other criminal groups, like the chinese, the hangure, the
Bōsōzoku (japanese biker clubs), American MC’s (hells and bandidos), nigerian groups
And many others.

Its like in italy, before the internet gave people more informations. Many, like myslef taught
That only the mafia was in Italy. But with more infos, I learn that the criminal world in italy is
more diverse than only the mafia. You have italian groups like Ndrangheta, Comorra and SCU. You also have the Stidda in Sicily.
And now, you got Nigerians, Chinese and Albanians groups that operate in Italy.

Re: Yakuza Organizations [Re: Giacomo_Vacari] #1014713
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There’s a movie on Netflix about the Yakuza named , Yakuza and the family. Its a good movie.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rUzKrTx3F3k

Re: Yakuza Organizations [Re: Blackmobs] #1014714
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Actually Jackie Chen made a movie about the Chinese immigrant gangs in Tokyo years ago. It`s pretty entertaining.
Shinjuku Incident

Re: Yakuza Organizations [Re: Giacomo_Vacari] #1014794
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In the northwest of Tokyo is the Kabukicho district, one of Asia’s largest “entertainment zones.” It is a cluttered neighborhood of narrow alleys, neon signs, beckoning touts and raucous laughter. It is an area which wakes up at noon and parties until dawn, where gamblers and gangsters run rings around the police and where prostitutes and strippers undress for success.

Kabukicho is packed with massage parlors, strip shows, porn stores, gambling dens, bars, hostess clubs and S and M services. There are even distinctively Japanese parlors called “image clubs,” where customers act out fantasies by spanking prostitutes who pretend to be schoolgirls in uniform or by groping young women who pretend to be subway commuters. All of this happens in private fantasy rooms built to look like school classrooms or subway cars.

Beyond the razzle-dazzle, Kabukicho offers a glimpse of the directions in which Asia is evolving. In the aftermath of World War II, when vast stretches of Tokyo were rubble as far as the eye could see, all this bustle was directed at Americans.

Indeed, the Japanese government ran brothels for the Americans so as to dissipate the sexual energies of the GIs harmlessly on prostitutes. The authorities ran recruitment campaigns asking war widows to sacrifice their own virtue by working in these brothels so as to “save” young Japanese women from the American brutes.

Then, as Japan prospered, the clientele became increasingly Japanese. And eventually, in the 1980s, Western women began to show up in the brothels to cater to Japanese men. Prosperity had reversed the tables.

Yet ultimately, it is the Chinese who have come to dominate Kabukicho. Most of the prostitutes are now Chinese — and many of the gangsters and touts and petty thieves are from Shanghai or Guangdong or Fujian.

“None of us like Japanese men,” said a 25 year-old Chinese woman working as a prostitute in a Kabukicho bar. “They’re so different from Chinese people. They’re cold, and we’re warm. They like distance, and we like to be close. I wouldn’t choose them for pleasure.” She shrugged, and added, “But this is business.”

The woman has prospered because of the same fierce drive that is lifting much of the rest of Asia: She takes classes in Japanese and English during the day, then goes to work in her bar and the nearby “love hotels” from 9:00 p.m. to 5:00 a.m.

“It’s tough, but I’m making a lot more money than I was in China,” she said. “With the money, I hope I can go to the United States. I have some relatives in Florida, in a city called Miami. That’s where I’d like to go next.”

The Chinese success in taking over Kabukicho has a good deal to do with the reasons that Asia has prospered more generally: flexibility, drive and social stability.

It may seem unorthodox to discuss a red-light district in terms of social stability. And yet crime is rare, the streets are safe, and when one Chinese prostitute stole some bills from a customer’s wallet at a love hotel, she was banished from the industry forever.

“Our biggest problem is the rise of the Chinese mafia,” one yakuza, that is a member of the Japanese-style mafia, lamented. “The Chinese gangs are taking business from us in every area — in prostitution, in gambling, in selling stolen goods.”

He added, “The difference between us is that Japanese yakuza think of long-term business relationships, but the Chinese mafia thinks just of the short-term. Their only goal is money, money, money.” His comment was strangely reminiscent of what Japanese industrialists often say of Chinese rivals.

The Chinese gangs prospered partly because they have been quicker than Japanese crooks to enter new fields and adopt high technology, like equipment to forge passports or magnetic strip cards that fool pachinko arcades. Chinese mobsters also won business by competing effectively on price: They offer contract killings, for example, for as little as $2,700.

Chinese gangsters are so brazen that they are even robbing the yakuza themselves. “They know that we have money — and that if they rob us, we cannot go to the police,” one yakuza said. “So it’s terrible: A yakuza will be walking down the street, and these Chinese dogs will hold him up at knifepoint or gunpoint and demand his money.”

“There is nothing more humiliating for a yakuza,” he continues, “than to be robbed by another gangster, but if he fights back he will be killed. For Japanese yakuza, the most important thing is staying alive, and making money is second. But for the Chinese gangsters, the first thing is money. The second thing is money. And the third thing is money.”

This might be the reason that the Chinese brothels and massage parlors in Kabukicho edged out their Japanese rivals — they fought harder, charged less and were more “entrepreneurial.”

https://www.theglobalist.com/japan-descending-into-the-underworld/

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Its kind of crazy how the Yakuza see other criminal organizations that are active in Japan.
In this article, you can see that The Yakuza are seing Chinese gangs (dont know if they are members of a Triads) like some hungry criminals with no morals.
Just like italian mobsters see’s other criminal groups in the western world

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