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Re: Persico was an informant
[Re: Njein]
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08/20/21 12:04 AM
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Alfa Romeo
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If it's true, and it looks like it is, it shouldn't surprise anyone. I've always suspected certain top bosses of being top echelons if they appeared themselves to have a narcotics operation, however secret or discreet. Why? Because everyone knows "the G" is behind most if not all of the top drug dealers. Therefore any boss, no matter how legendary, if he appeared to have any narcotics connection, even if it was off shored and outsourced to foreign criminal conspiracies and groups in other countries, that boss likely received immunity from the CIA. You can be a top echelon that the police or DEA don't even know about, it's just that when they go to arrest you, someone always interferes who has higher jurisdiction. I have no proof, but do I believe Carmine Persico was a drug dealer, ultimately? Yes.
"For us, rubbin'out a Mustache was just like makin' way for a new building, like we was in the construction business."
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Re: Persico was an informant
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08/20/21 10:21 AM
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If it's true, and it looks like it is, it shouldn't surprise anyone. I've always suspected certain top bosses of being top echelons if they appeared themselves to have a narcotics operation, however secret or discreet. Why? Because everyone knows "the G" is behind most if not all of the top drug dealers. Therefore any boss, no matter how legendary, if he appeared to have any narcotics connection, even if it was off shored and outsourced to foreign criminal conspiracies and groups in other countries, that boss likely received immunity from the CIA. You can be a top echelon that the police or DEA don't even know about, it's just that when they go to arrest you, someone always interferes who has higher jurisdiction. I have no proof, but do I believe Carmine Persico was a drug dealer, ultimately? Yes.
Alfa, which bosses do you suspect? Perscio, Genovese, Castellano, Anastasia, and John Ormento, to name a few were all either going to prison for life or had cases and investigations pending. They even framed Genovese in his second conviction. Succeeding bosses in a few examples were also sent away:Gotti, for the Gambino's, Cantena , Salerno and Tieri on the Genovese side, and Carmine Trumanti for the Lucheses. Do you mean bosses in other cites, since all my examples were New Yorkers, or do you mean ones I left out? Perscio did most of the last 50 years of his life in prison, Scarpa (A definite rat) was constantly left alone till the very end.
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Re: Persico was an informant
[Re: Njein]
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08/20/21 03:04 PM
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yes carmine persico was informant.. and im also the 5 player for the Beatles........you lowlives you,, one cant be a infromant and spend more than half of if his life in atlanta USP, lewisburg USP, and his last two stints were in marion usp, lompoc usp, and butner fci......im amaze where he found time to have kids,,,,,,and as for harry ricconbe was he rat yes he was on the begign of his life ,,,BUT he was nver cosa nostra,,,,, he was TOUGH CIVILIAN thas all........ he was no BOSS OF A FAMILY
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Re: Persico was an informant
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08/20/21 03:21 PM
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Riccobene was a made man in the Philadelphia Mafia. hey shitbag as made man who did he reporte it to nicodemo scarfo lol ,,, angelo bruno,,,or joey ida
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Re: Persico was an informant
[Re: Njein]
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08/20/21 03:37 PM
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The papers look doctored to me. Plus more than a dozen top, top bosses are listed there as well. If he is a rat, then what are you saying? All the rest of them were rats also?
It doesn't make sense. Anything is possible in life. Anything!
But put two and two together and use your heads. Junior spent 50 years in prison. More than that, he beloved son Allie is currently doing life himself. If Persico had been a rat, don't you think he would have made sure he and his son (and his cousins Andy and nephews), didn't get destroyed like that?
Otherwise what did he gain from his so-called' cooperation agreement?
It's a shot in the dark from Orena and his lawyers to get some relief from his sentence. But I've seen those documents and I can tell you that they DO NOT clearly explain or delineate who is, and who isn't, an informer on those pages. And by the way, each CI has their own special code as you know. The same 'exact' code is listed next to each and every name on that list.
So it looks to me as though there was one informer who was providing info on all those named on the pages, Persico included.
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Re: Persico was an informant
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08/20/21 04:55 PM
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Re: Persico was an informant
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08/20/21 04:57 PM
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Re: Persico was an informant
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08/20/21 05:27 PM
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The informant number is the same next to each individual. Informants are given unique identifiers. So if all of these guys were informants, would they all be given the same identifier? Or could it be that this particular informant "3461-C-TE" is just giving information on the individuals listed? EXACTLY 1000% percent correct! .....1,000,000% correct. It was 1 single informant (obviously high level) who was able to provide info on each of those named individuals. Period! And Persico was only one of many he had info on. It's clear as a bell on those documents. Why some people try and create sensationalism and run with all these bullshit statements is totally beyond me. (Orena I can understand, he's trying to get out of jail and will BS on anything that he thinks serves his purpose). But the rest of you? Come on now. Stay on track fellas. It's better that way (for all the legit people who truly wanna glean real knowledge of OC) and not BS
Last edited by NYMafia; 08/20/21 05:53 PM.
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