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Re: Dennis DeLucia Colombo capo flipped
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10/03/21 03:56 PM
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serp. above you say 'This is bad … and yes its him '....now, i have a friend up around him telling me its not true. and capeci has changed the story...this quote from you suggests you have heard other than capeci, so please let me know your thoughts I didn’t hear from anyone in the life that it’s definitely him …. But pretty sure i read it several places unless feds trying to pull some bull shit as usual . I would not doubt they are behind Capeci saying it was him and now pulling it …. But everyone will know very soon . I don’t know if the feds have done this before …. Put info like this out then have it pulled . But i am not a researcher so it’s possible they do it often . But it wont be long before its fact or not . Extremely strange now the article i read is completely gone …. This is different because you know the Capeci got that from LE …. Dont tell me they did something like this to get a murder attempt on a guy or people close to him ….. because no way were LE trying to get them calling each other . But it sure looks that its not him ….. when has this happened before … and how often is it done …. And is it legal at all . I dont watch the news at all nor do I search internet but i do look at gangland - mob sites and now everyone that had him as ratting doesn’t anymore . I really don’t ever remember seeing this happen before …
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Re: Dennis DeLucia Colombo capo flipped
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10/04/21 02:49 PM
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OK I misread then...that being said..I don't remember this ever happening ...and I have guts 'that should know' say both he is and he isn't, so it's baffling..sounds like he wasn't moved or anything, which is strange if he is..who knows.. I will be out in Pittsburg with some family next couple weeks …. Not that means anything but my cousins are still plugged in so maybe i will hear something reliable. That was bad !!! And bad on my part for reading and repeating a pretty reliable guys words …. But i guess we all did .
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Re: Dennis DeLucia Colombo capo flipped
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10/04/21 02:58 PM
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Terrible management, Knucklehead hires real-life Soprano plague operations October 4, 2021 by Editorial Team NEW YORK CITY – The kiss of death for mob families isn’t necessarily from gang wars or snitches. These days, organized crime is further threatened by mismanagement, lousy hires, and half-baked succession plans.
Former mob investigators point to the case against Andrew Russo, the man federal prosecutors say heads the Colombo crime family, one of the five gangster clans that ruled the New York underworld for much of the last century.
The alleged management problems of the Colombo leader seem to mirror those of Tony Soprano, the fictional boss of the television mafia who struggled to choose a successor and keep his hands off the dirty work.
Mr. Russo was arrested on September 14 in a crippling takedown of the Colombo family’s executive leaders and middle managers. Prosecutors said in court documents that Mr. Russo, his deputy chief, consigliere, several captains and other subordinates carried out an alleged scheme for two decades to extort money from a New York City union and related health fund.
In hindsight, Russo’s executive mistakes included micromanaging subordinates and, at 87, hanging on to his job too long, said Scott Curtis, a former agent with the Federal Bureau of Investigation who investigated the family operation for years.
“I can’t walk away. I can’t rest, ”Russo said in one of his conversations secretly recorded by the FBI over the years and revealed in court documents.
Curtis, who is not involved in the court case, said Russo did not follow the best business practices established by past generations of bosses: maintaining a healthy distance between mischief and boss.
Russo, nicknamed “Mush,” was too practical, Curtis said. Prosecutors said in court documents that the alleged Colombo leader, who has seven previous convictions, knew the heart of the alleged crackdown.
“That’s why you see some of these guys getting arrested repeatedly,” said Curtis, who now works as vice president of investigations at Madison Square Garden Entertainment Corp. “They have to get their hands on all these minute details of the plan. “
That predisposes them to failure, he said, that is, to jail. Mr. Russo has pleaded not guilty to nine criminal charges, including charges spanning racketeering, extortion, money laundering, and conspiracy.
Curtis said the high-level micromanagement in the Colombo case reflected concerns about the incompetence of lower-level members.
A new generation of savants did not properly learn the business, according to former government researchers. Older members complain that millennials, who grew up in the suburbs rather than on city streets, are softer, dumber, and not as loyal as gangsters of the past. Also, they are always texting.
“Everything is on the phones with them,” said a former Colombo family member who knows some of the men accused in the case. A Colombo associate is accused of sending threatening text messages to a union official over extortion charges.
“Hey, this is the second text, there is not going to be a third,” wrote the associate, according to court records.
“I’m sure that’s frowned upon in mob circles,” former FBI agent and crisis management consultant Richard Frankel said of what appeared to be incriminating texts.
In the mid-20th century, the five New York mob families “operated like a McDonald’s franchise,” said Jerold Zimmerman, professor emeritus at the Simon Business School at the University of Rochester.
Illegal businesses, such as gambling houses, trafficking in illicit goods and corruption involving unions and construction companies, are operated independently, he said. Those in charge paid a portion of the proceeds to the boss, who kept the peace and handed out promotions, said Dr. Zimmerman, one of the authors of a book on business practices in New York criminal families.
One reason for the mafia’s decline is the FBI’s prosecution of organized crime in the 1980s and 1990s, which resulted in the arrest and conviction of hundreds of experts. All five families are still operating, but their market reach has been reduced and membership has suffered.
Gangsters are trying to keep a low profile by reducing violence. “They certainly don’t kill people like they used to,” said Michael Gaeta, a former FBI agent who spent 13 years investigating organized crime in New York. “At the end of the day, it draws too much heat.”
The United States Attorney’s Office for the Eastern District of New York lobbied to keep Mr. Russo behind bars while awaiting trial by presenting transcripts of recordings that they allege show him as a danger to society. Jeffrey Lichtman, Russo’s attorney, said the recordings were more than a decade old.
“In terms of danger, he’s an 87-year-old man and they are relying on tapes from 11 years ago,” Lichtman said.
A spokesman for the U.S. attorney’s office declined to comment.
Some alleged Colombo members appear to have been pining for an administrative shakeup, court documents show.
Prosecutors allege that Colombo leaders at a meeting at a Brooklyn restaurant last year decided that Russo would eventually be replaced by Theodore Persico Jr., the nephew of Carmine “The Snake” Persico, a long-time suspected Colombo crime boss. weather. Mr. Persico died while serving a sentence in federal prison two years ago at age 85.
Persico Jr., also a defendant in the current case, has pleaded not guilty. His attorney did not respond to a request for comment.
Prosecutors said a recording of the investigation captured a suspected Colombo soldier saying extortion from the union would be “easy” once Persico took control of the family. “The guy is the best man in the world to deal with,” she said, according to transcripts of court documents.
In another transcribed recording, the soldier regretted that Mr. Russo had no intention of resigning. “The problem is that this old man wanted to be the boss all his life,” he said.
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Re: Dennis DeLucia Colombo capo flipped
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10/04/21 03:00 PM
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This Week In Gang LandA Secret 'Confidential Witness,' NOT Fat Dennis Delucia, Helped Feds Snare Colombo Family Leaders
Federal prosecutors in Brooklyn sure seem to have gotten some very important help from a Colombo wiseguy in order to take down the crime family's Administration, along with three powerful capos and four other mobsters and associates in the biggest Mafia roundup in several years. But two weeks later, his identity remains a mystery.
That is despite persistent rumors and reports from several usually reliable sources who tabbed Colombo capo Dennis (Fat Dennis) Delucia, an 80-year-old wiseguy as the defector. In fact, though, the identity of the "confidential witness" who made tape recordings for prosecutors James McDonald and Devon Lash in which many defendants "discuss a variety of criminal activities" remains a well-guarded secret.
Sources say that on several occasions since the racketeering conspiracy indictment was filed two weeks ago, the Bronx-based geezer gangster told friends and associates he ran into at restaurants and other locations not to believe everything they read if he was identified as a turncoat. "His words should be heeded," one very reliable source told Gang Land yesterday.
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Re: Dennis DeLucia Colombo capo flipped
[Re: furio_from_naples]
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10/16/21 08:42 AM
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NYMafia did NOT break that news. We only posted what Capeci had to say here as a courtesy. The fact that DeLucia didn't rat is a good thing. But had he gone 'bad' that would not have been a big surprise considering that over the years "supposedly" better guys than him have turned. Many soldiers and capos, a few underbosses, acting bosses, Colombo consigliere Carmine Sessa, and even family bosses such as Joe Massino. So it wouldn't have surprised anyone nowadays.
Dennis is standing tall the way he should. Bravo for him! At 80 years old it would have been a shame if he went bad. - On another note, you ain't gonna see Catapano in any boss seat. And with all due respect Ralphie, Catapano isn't boss material in any way, shape, or form. In fact, he doesn't want any connection to the life at all. He's retired so to speak, and out of the mix altogether. I hear he lives in Florida. He did that 8 year bid and then scooted. He's done.
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Re: Dennis DeLucia Colombo capo flipped
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10/16/21 10:00 AM
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Catapano still lives in Long Island and he is active. I have no idea who is feeding you this nonsense, but it is just that. With all due respect. While if he is, then he relocated back after his uncle died. Because when he was first released and on 'paper,' he moved down south to get away from everyone. Maybe not to get violated. Now that he's off parole, he might have come back north. As they say, "time always tells"
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Re: Dennis DeLucia Colombo capo flipped
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10/16/21 03:48 PM
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Hey NYMafia, how much longer for the website to be up and running again? We will hopefully have the site revamped and finished sometime this coming week. And then we will announce a major relaunching. It could never be fully completed because there is so much new content were adding. But we've received so many emails and requests to get going that we now feel compelled to launch it. I'll say this much. We have implemented (and will be continuing to implement) so many new and exciting changes and additions to TNYM that our fans are gonna flip with delight. So hang in there a bit more ok DD (trust me, you ain't gonna be disappointed).
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Re: Dennis DeLucia Colombo capo flipped
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10/21/21 06:12 AM
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NYMafia did NOT break that news. We only posted what Capeci had to say here as a courtesy. The fact that DeLucia didn't rat is a good thing. But had he gone 'bad' that would not have been a big surprise considering that over the years "supposedly" better guys than him have turned. Many soldiers and capos, a few underbosses, acting bosses, Colombo consigliere Carmine Sessa, and even family bosses such as Joe Massino. So it wouldn't have surprised anyone nowadays.
Dennis is standing tall the way he should. Bravo for him! At 80 years old it would have been a shame if he went bad. - On another note, you ain't gonna see Catapano in any boss seat. And with all due respect Ralphie, Catapano isn't boss material in any way, shape, or form. In fact, he doesn't want any connection to the life at all. He's retired so to speak, and out of the mix altogether. I hear he lives in Florida. He did that 8 year bid and then scooted. He's done.
Yeah you like spreading fake news before you analyze the facts. I read the indictment and came to the conclusion it was an associate of Vinny Unions in the labor aspect. But you tabloid bullshit fake news gossip columnist labeled and 80 year old geezer a rat. It's disgusting. You should work for the National Enquirer. You do Zero research. You only regurgitate the news fed to you like a little maggot infested baby bird and your mama bird is the Mainstream Media. Fucking do the work man or stay silent. You're credibility is garbage now. You're a fucking parrot.
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Re: Dennis DeLucia Colombo capo flipped
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10/21/21 06:16 AM
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Catapano still lives in Long Island and he is active. I have no idea who is feeding you this nonsense, but it is just that. With all due respect. You are correct Ralphie. Catapano is very low key these days. He's a smart guy. He probably leaked the info to NY Mafia that he is living in Florida and out of the life! Hahahahahaha. Well played Catapano!
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Re: Dennis DeLucia Colombo capo flipped
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10/22/21 05:37 AM
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Unfortunately there are people so unhappy in their own lives they feel compelled to try and tear others down in an attempt to make themselves to feel better.
These "desperadoes" stoop to any level in a vain attempt to be "relevant." They feel that if they can't rise to your level, they'll knock you down to theirs. It's a sick mentally deranged personality that they actually get a sort of "sick thrill" out of this type of behavior.
But what can ya do? ....It's best to just ignore these cretins. While the rest of us contribute positively, they "troll" around. Sad but true --- In the meantime TNYM will soon be back up for those of you who follow us. We're busy working on the site daily now. So we don't have time for nonsense. I own an Industrial contracting company specializing in mechanical and electrical jobs with 5 crew supervisors and over 40 employees under them in multiple jobs spanning 21 states. This mob stuff has been a hobby since I was 10. But yeah maybe one day I'll rise to your level of regurgitating articles about the mob from media sources without doing research from my bedroom in my parents house like you. One can only dream bro.
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Re: Dennis DeLucia Colombo capo flipped
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10/22/21 05:52 AM
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Re: Dennis DeLucia Colombo capo flipped
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I wonder if we have people on this forum who stalks wiseguys, just so they can talk about them here. With the limited amount of knowledge I've seen lately I highly doubt it. That being said we have some Jerry Capeci/Larry McShane GanglandNews/Daily News stalkers out and about. They creeping on those articles like a sniffy pervert no doubt
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Re: Dennis DeLucia Colombo capo flipped
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There were ALWAYS rats. s - Don't get me wrong, we now know that there were plenty of made guys and top associates who provided varying degrees of info to the feds dating back decades. Lombardozzi, Scarpa, LaTorre, Bompensiero, Lima, Gagliano, etc. But they were dry snitches, and they would NEVER testify in open court which greatly limited their value
Gagliano, one of the original bosses, was informing?
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