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Re: Johnny Ola first meeting with Mike.
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12/22/21 05:56 PM
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Well, you've hit on one of the Big Anomalies of GFII: Yes, it appears to be a warm day (or at least not cold). And, it would fit the Church's schedule for First Communions, which I think are traditionally held on Pentecost Sunday, seven Sundays after Easter. That would put Anthony's party sometime in June, But, the shooting happened that evening, and Michael left immediately to see Roth in Miami. Then he visited Pentangeli in NY--and it was snowing. Then he went to Havana, and was there at New Year's Eve. He obviously didn't stretch all this out over six or seen months, so Anthony's First Communion and the shooting had to have happened sometime in December. So, why was Johnny Ola wearing an overcoat? My guess is, to keep warm. I think he told Coppola: "Listen, Francis, I don't care what you say, it's cold as hell in Tahoe in December, and I don't have a mink stole to keep me warm." 
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Johnny Ola first meeting with Mike.
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12/23/21 06:07 PM
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(Oli, Michael was understandably obsessed with finding out who was the traitor in his family. Since Michael knew that Roth was behind the attack, he needed to keep Roth "relaxed, confident that our relationship is still good..." so he could stay close to Roth and, through that closeness, find the traitor. Or, as Johnny O said more succinctly, "keep your friends close..."
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Johnny Ola first meeting with Mike.
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12/23/21 11:12 PM
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True enough TB. However, Michael's trip to see Roth must have been planned before the assassination attempt. Thus, there was no traitor at that point to ferret out. Yes, I'm sure Michael had to set up some kind of meeting with Roth, prior to the shooting, so that Roth could introduce him to Batista and be blessed as Roth's successor. Perhaps he hadn't set up the date yet, or maybe that was one of the things he was discussing with Ola at Anthony's party. I'm guessing that Michael rushed up the meeting right after the shooting to assure Roth that they were still good--and to hasten finding out who was the traitor.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Johnny Ola first meeting with Mike.
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01/06/22 04:30 PM
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I think the Communion was in November.
When Michael visits Roth, Hyman is watching a college football game. Back then college football ended by Thanksgiving weekend, other than bowls on/around New Year's Day (at which time Michael/Roth were in Cuba).
I'd have to go back to listen but others have posted that the game broadcast was USC vs. Notre Dame. In 1958, they played on November 29th. So the Communion/shooting had to be before that.
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