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Cosa Nostra's Founding Fathers
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Who are the True Cosa Nostra Founding Fathers? Who were the most influential and integral to the foundation of the Mafia? Who were the first powers on the street and the original crews that were powerful? I am speaking strictly after 1931 officially.
One that I find fascinating Who doesn't get named as much is Little Augie Pisano Carfano. Who else???,
"Joe Bananas went after Carlo Gambino, the war went on for seven years..... When guys go to the mattresses, they're not out earning" -Tony Soprano
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Re: Cosa Nostra's Founding Fathers
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Ruggiero "Richie The Boot" Boiardo and Rocco Pellegrino
"Joe Bananas went after Carlo Gambino, the war went on for seven years..... When guys go to the mattresses, they're not out earning" -Tony Soprano
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Re: Cosa Nostra's Founding Fathers
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Luciano and those in power in 1931, all before them were old world types and not in synch with the changing times and different country. I agree but there were a few guys in th 20s who were able to make the transition, Boiardo, Carfano and Frank Scalise are good examples. They lasted years after 1931
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Re: Cosa Nostra's Founding Fathers
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So Luciano and Lanksy gets alot of credit (along with their associates like Bugsy Siegel) but I think that's just a popular narrative. The other heads of the Family's get treated as an afterthought. Even the members of the Luciano Family (who helped facilitate alot what they are acclaimed for is laughable to me personally). I do believe Luciano was the most powerful and influential Boss of all time but no one person can account for everything
I am just finished reading Havana Nocture, very good read btw. It was amazing what they accomplished there in particular. And although they started Las Vegas, it was the Mid west Borgotas that expanded that territory.
The question to me is, Who made who? Luciano or Lansky?
"Joe Bananas went after Carlo Gambino, the war went on for seven years..... When guys go to the mattresses, they're not out earning" -Tony Soprano
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Re: Cosa Nostra's Founding Fathers
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I do believe Luciano was the most powerful and influential Boss of all time but no one person can account for everything
Luciano deserves that accolade because he ordered the assassination of the two Moustache Petes--Masseria and Maranzano--and formed the Commission. He put the modern Mafia on a businesslike footing. He also had the wisdom not to declare himself capo di tutti capi--he was that secure in his own mind. The question to me is, Who made who? Luciano or Lansky? Luciano and Lasky were best friends since their teens. Meyer was Charlie's most trusted adviser, and he arranged the murders of Masseria and Maranzano. He also advised the Commission, collectively and individually. But, the two were not inseparable, and went their separate ways at times. I'd say neither made the other, but they were a powerful team when they worked together..
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Cosa Nostra's Founding Fathers
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03/03/22 07:04 AM
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[quote=Dob_Peppino]
I do believe Luciano was the most powerful and influential Boss of all time but no one person can account for everything Luciano deserves that accolade because he ordered the assassination of the two Moustache Petes--Masseria and Maranzano--and formed the Commission. He put the modern Mafia on a businesslike footing. He also had the wisdom not to declare himself capo di tutti capi--he was that secure in his own mind. The question to me is, Who made who? Luciano or Lansky? Luciano and Lasky were best friends since their teens. Meyer was Charlie's most trusted adviser, and he arranged the murders of Masseria and Maranzano. He also advised the Commission, collectively and individually. But, the two were not inseparable, and went their separate ways at times. I'd say neither made the other, but they were a powerful team when they worked together.. [/quoteW ------ Well put. and I agree. What Luciano did for Lansky, and by extension his "Jewish Mob" was to umbrella them under the Luciano family which gave them the protection of the mafia. No one interfered with them for decades to come because of that. And with the Luciano family's protection Lansky was soon viewed "nationwide" by the Jewish mob as its "Rabbi" and acknowledged "Boss" because of that fact as well. He basically had carte-blanche under Luciano. But Lansky was pivotal to Luciano as well in that he was instrumental in helping guide the overall mob into legalized gambling, casinos, etc. They were a great team.
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