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Will the Five Families exist in say, 30 years?
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03/14/22 07:55 AM
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Re: Will the Five Families exist in say, 30 years?
[Re: Liggio]
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03/15/22 01:56 PM
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That makes no sense. Anyway, just consider this, 30 years ago I'm sure they were saying the same thing, yet they're still here. There you have it. Saying the life is over and saying the five families still exist are two different things. The problem is that there's nothing going on around right now. You have an organization, but you don't have the activities that used to define that organization. Today's mob does not fit peoples definition of the word 'mob'. A lot of people are struggling to comprehend this, but people who have been around this life and people who have followed this subject since from a different century are fully aware of this fact. It's over. You'd have to be Stevie Wonder not to see it.
But you had to play it cool, had to do it your way Had to be a fool, had to throw it all away
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Re: Will the Five Families exist in say, 30 years?
[Re: Don_Alfonso]
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03/15/22 03:14 PM
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Can't we just simply discuss the mob without the same old "it ain't what it used to be" spill? It's getting really redundant. I haven't talked to one person who thinks it's still the same. Not one, nada! I know it, you know it, they know it, everyone knows it. Let's move on.
And to those of us who actually post current goings-on and events regarding the mob, without resorting to the tired old talk about how there's not much left, I salute you. A mention here and there is okay, but for some people it's all they ramble on about.
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Re: Will the Five Families exist in say, 30 years?
[Re: Giacalone]
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03/15/22 03:55 PM
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Nothing ever stays the same.
The world has changed so much over the last 20-30-50 years.
Every business and industry has changed.
LCN's core business's are no exception.
It wouldn't even be possible for it to have not changed.
However, they have evolved with the changing times.
As I pointed out from where I am from in BensonHURST, they are still here, they are still active, they don't get treated the way they used to, to most they would say they are even here anymore, BUT THEY ARE STILL HERE.
I personally think the "GOOD OLE DAYS" of the 80' and 90's should have never been, the organization was meant to be Secretive, and anyone that was around back then knows it was anything but that. Everyone knew who the wiseguy on the block was, as he was treated like a movie star, in alot of cases, alot of the members their EGO's were larger than life because of it.
You can see how that was a problem and brought about the unnecessary attention that was never supposed to be. And was partly responsible for the crackdown that ensued.
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Today it is back to what it always should have been.
A SECRET, No more Top Echelon Program for the FBI, think about the damage that program did to LCN?
Talk about Rats, the Rats that did the damage were from that era, and were able to give up bodies from sometimes 10,20 years ago. Most big mob cases in the last 10-15 years have spanned back to that era and unsolved murders.
There are no more murders so you are not seeing as many rats anymore, if you think about it.
Who was the last made guy to flip, what damage did he do? What bodies he did he give up?
John Penease?
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Re: Will the Five Families exist in say, 30 years?
[Re: Don_Alfonso]
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03/17/22 11:05 AM
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I think it will. However, the Italian groups will try to have a bigger influence here in the coming years. The Americans won't be able to hold their ground IMO
" If you're going to be bad, be good at it "
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Re: Will the Five Families exist in say, 30 years?
[Re: Don_Alfonso]
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03/21/22 07:29 AM
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You brought up an excellent point, the 5 Families will be around for more decades to come because they're still recruiting, per recent revelations, even the Colombos. I actually think the Colombo Family is a good indicator for the health of the other Families, if the weak Colombos are still recruiting and trucking along, then you KNOW the other 4 Families are doing okay, and in the case of the Gambinos and Genoveses, beyond just okay.
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Re: Will the Five Families exist in say, 30 years?
[Re: m2w]
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03/21/22 11:08 AM
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Will survive the families that still have ties with Italy and maybe the ndrine will surpass the american mafia. Or maybe will be imported many zip from Sicily but even from Calabria and Campania. ndrangheta is too weak in the states to surpass local cosa nostra, if somebody should do it are the sicilian zips who are about 3000 according to fbi, but i think the 5 families will be still alive in 30 years Surpass in power not in numbers. The ndrine are more secretive than american mafia; they need 7 ndranghetisti to form a ndrina and 7 ndrine to form a locale. Maybe they are making money in the shadows in NY and LE ignore them.
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Re: Will the Five Families exist in say, 30 years?
[Re: Don_Alfonso]
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03/25/22 09:40 PM
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Societa' Honore, The Honored Society, is a perpetual phenomena of Sicily, Calabria, and Campania. Its origins date back hundreds and hundreds of years (in one form or another) to almost "antica," or antiquity. It's not going anywhere, anytime soon. It may never end. Because by its very nature it is a "mentality" more than a simple organization that is ingrained into the very fabric of Southern Italy itself, and it people so to speak. Omertà is a phenomena in and of itself that is adopted by the core Italian populous where it is considered "unmanly" for anyone to act dishonorably in any way, even for a female, not only regarding criminality, but in normal daily Italian life itself....its threads run so deep!
But its internal and external dynamics have changed greatly. For better or worse I suspect it will continue to morph as they have always done.
Last edited by NYMafia; 03/25/22 09:43 PM.
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