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Re: List Of Rats- Blood/Crips/MS13/Mexican ETC
[Re: jace]
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07/12/22 12:46 PM
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What's the point?
Wildly different organizations in this day and age.
Very different, and also different countries. They are based in other nations even when operating in places like the Untied States. Mexican Mafia is a US based organization.
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Re: List Of Rats- Blood/Crips/MS13/Mexican ETC
[Re: ThisGuyOverHere]
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07/12/22 01:25 PM
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alicecooper
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What's the point?
Wildly different organizations in this day and age.
Very different, and also different countries. They are based in other nations even when operating in places like the Untied States. Mexican Mafia is a US based organization. Ok, but still, what is the point being made here?
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Re: List Of Rats- Blood/Crips/MS13/Mexican ETC
[Re: alicecooper]
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07/12/22 08:53 PM
07/12/22 08:53 PM
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NYMafia
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I heard Italians had low self esteem. Why else would they compare themselves to blacks and Mexicans?
Seriously though this thread is now officially retarded on every level.
I think plenty of Italians would be upset that you are judging them by the ratio of made mafia members that rat. Newsflash, most people think mafiosos are pieces of shit whether they rat or not. Same for every other asshole group you mentioned.
I'm Irish and German. I'll tell you to fuck off if you judge me by what the Westies or third Reich did. Now you're talking apples and oranges. WTF does that have to do with the discussion were having? Why are you even on a "Mob Forum" if you're not interested in legitimate discussion on the topic of the Italian mob, etc.? ...Seriously now AC? Were not trying to compare Italian gangsters to Michelangelo, Donatella, or Galileo. But in the context of discussing organized crime, the American underworld, and where the Italian mob falls within those categories I do believe all of what BH, myself, and other posters is within the realm of that discussion. And the bare fact remains that "within that particular context" NO other criminal entity, NO OTHER CRIMINAL ENTITY, could even hope to carry the jockstrap of Cosa Nostra, the mob, the Mafia, or whatever other term you care to refer to them as. And thats a fact! Crips? LOL...Bloods? Lol, MS13? lol......these are all shit street urchins. You wanna compare them to Cosa Nostra? Pleeez, give us a break here!
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Re: List Of Rats- Blood/Crips/MS13/Mexican ETC
[Re: alicecooper]
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07/12/22 09:01 PM
07/12/22 09:01 PM
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DiLorenzo
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I heard Italians had low self esteem. Why else would they compare themselves to blacks and Mexicans?
. Years back, NYC was Irish, German, Jewish and then Italians started coming.... You can google and see the ''No Italians Allowed''to bid on contracts You can even go to the mob picture thread and see their mug shots where the cops beat the hell out of them.....And they never got $20 mill settlements... The only difference is Italians took it as an insult and made something of themselves, we never played victim
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Re: List Of Rats- Blood/Crips/MS13/Mexican ETC
[Re: DiLorenzo]
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07/12/22 09:09 PM
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I heard Italians had low self esteem. Why else would they compare themselves to blacks and Mexicans?
. Years back, NYC was Irish, German, Jewish and then Italians started coming.... You can google and see the ''No Italians Allowed''to bid on contracts You can even go to the mob picture thread and see their mug shots where the cops beat the hell out of them.....And they never got $20 mill settlements... The only difference is Italians took it as an insult and made something of themselves, we never played victim Thats because we were too proud a people for that! Not that there was even such as thing as "welfare" back then. But had there been, most Italians would never take a handout anyway. It was considered dishonorable and shameful to beg. Thats why they pushed they way they did. Make it by any means you had to, but make it, and advance yourself by your own volition. Pride, they had tons of pride. Thats been very well documented over the years.
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Re: List Of Rats- Blood/Crips/MS13/Mexican ETC
[Re: NYMafia]
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07/12/22 09:17 PM
07/12/22 09:17 PM
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I heard Italians had low self esteem. Why else would they compare themselves to blacks and Mexicans?
. Years back, NYC was Irish, German, Jewish and then Italians started coming.... You can google and see the ''No Italians Allowed''to bid on contracts You can even go to the mob picture thread and see their mug shots where the cops beat the hell out of them.....And they never got $20 mill settlements... The only difference is Italians took it as an insult and made something of themselves, we never played victim Thats because we were too proud a people for that! Not that there was even such as thing as "welfare" back then. But had there been, most Italians would never take a handout anyway. It was considered dishonorable and shameful to beg. Thats why they pushed they way they did. Make it by any means you had to, but make it, and advance yourself by your own volition. Pride, they had tons of pride. Thats been very well documented over the years. Exactly....I came from a family of 10...The school just assumed we couldn't afford lunches and offered to give us freebee's...My parents were insulted and went there and said we don't need any handouts
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Re: List Of Rats- Blood/Crips/MS13/Mexican ETC
[Re: DiLorenzo]
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07/12/22 09:18 PM
07/12/22 09:18 PM
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alicecooper
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I heard Italians had low self esteem. Why else would they compare themselves to blacks and Mexicans?
Seriously though this thread is now officially retarded on every level.
I think plenty of Italians would be upset that you are judging them by the ratio of made mafia members that rat. Newsflash, most people think mafiosos are pieces of shit whether they rat or not. Same for every other asshole group you mentioned.
I'm Irish and German. I'll tell you to fuck off if you judge me by what the Westies or third Reich did. Now you're talking apples and oranges. WTF does that have to do with the discussion were having? Why are you even on a "Mob Forum" if you're not interested in legitimate discussion on the topic of the Italian mob, etc.? ...Seriously now AC? Were not trying to compare Italian gangsters to Michelangelo, Donatella, or Galileo. But in the context of discussing organized crime, the American underworld, and where the Italian mob falls within those categories I do believe all of what BH, myself, and other posters is within the realm of that discussion. And the bare fact remains that "within that particular context" NO other criminal entity, NO OTHER CRIMINAL ENTITY, could even hope to carry the jockstrap of Cosa Nostra, the mob, the Mafia, or whatever other term you care to refer to them as. And thats a fact! Crips? LOL...Bloods? Lol, MS13? lol......these are all shit street urchins. You wanna compare them to Cosa Nostra? Pleeez, give us a break here! I'M not comparing them. I'M not the one who made this ridiculous thread. If you go back up the thread, I'M the first one to point out the drastic differences between these examples of organizations. I'M not comparing any of them to each other. This is not really a "legitimate discussion " (your words) about anything. Someone saying Italians are good, or great, or anything and giving the example of mafia rats vs street gang rat percentages is ridiculous.
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Re: List Of Rats- Blood/Crips/MS13/Mexican ETC
[Re: DiLorenzo]
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07/12/22 09:32 PM
07/12/22 09:32 PM
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alicecooper
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I heard Italians had low self esteem. Why else would they compare themselves to blacks and Mexicans?
. Years back, NYC was Irish, German, Jewish and then Italians started coming.... You can google and see the ''No Italians Allowed''to bid on contracts You can even go to the mob picture thread and see their mug shots where the cops beat the hell out of them.....And they never got $20 mill settlements... The only difference is Italians took it as an insult and made something of themselves, we never played victim Cops have been beating the hell out of people since the beginning of cops. They've beat everyone. Even me, but not too terrible bad. This thread is now at the point where everytime an Italian guy speaks, he speaks for all Italians in the history of the United States. It's beyond painting with broad strokes, it's throwing the whole bucket of paint at the canvas. And it's ridiculous. NOBODY in this thread is questioning Italians. Never played victim? On this board right now is a thread about a mobster suing the government because he slipped on a puddle during a fucking prison ping pong game.
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Re: List Of Rats- Blood/Crips/MS13/Mexican ETC
[Re: alicecooper]
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07/12/22 09:33 PM
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I heard Italians had low self esteem. Why else would they compare themselves to blacks and Mexicans?
. Years back, NYC was Irish, German, Jewish and then Italians started coming.... You can google and see the ''No Italians Allowed''to bid on contracts You can even go to the mob picture thread and see their mug shots where the cops beat the hell out of them.....And they never got $20 mill settlements... The only difference is Italians took it as an insult and made something of themselves, we never played victim Cops have been beating the hell out of people since the beginning of cops. They've beat everyone. Even me, but not too terrible bad. This thread is now at the point where everytime an Italian guy speaks, he speaks for all Italians in the history of the United States. It's beyond painting with broad strokes, it's throwing the whole bucket of paint at the canvas. And it's ridiculous. NOBODY in this thread is questioning Italians. Never played victim? On this board right now is a thread about a mobster suing the government because he slipped on a puddle during a fucking prison ping pong game. See what I mean about the TROLLS
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Re: List Of Rats- Blood/Crips/MS13/Mexican ETC
[Re: BensonHURST]
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07/12/22 10:00 PM
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alicecooper
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I was reading a book many years ago I forget which one The book was telling the story of when the Italians first came to America At the time NYC was building Central Park
And there was sign posted somewhere probably in alot of places
They listed how much they would pay per day
Again it was so long ago I dont remember the wage amount however, this is what I remember....
Whites 50 Cents a Day Blacks 30 Cents a Day Italians 15 Cents a Day
You get the point that Italians were looked up on as the lowest of the low Not even white So what? Most of human history is nothing but people fucking other people over. Is this a 100 yard dash for the gold medal of the victim Olympics? Am I owed reparations for the potato famine or any list of things that happened to people who came before me that happened to be of the same ethnicity? No. I'm owed nothing and neither are you. Instead you're doubling down on this imbecile level stance that you've taken in support of the mafia. Maybe this will make you feel better,, The Mafia is probably never going away.
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Re: List Of Rats- Blood/Crips/MS13/Mexican ETC
[Re: BensonHURST]
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07/12/22 10:17 PM
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jace
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Historically in America the Mafia had an incredibly low level of rats, almost non-existent. They were strong in that regard. I think many other groups in older days had lower levels too, but the Mafia was tops in that regard. As times changed, so did they. South Americans and Mexicans coming here (Illegally in most cases) are way tougher IN MOST CASES than any American gang. I had to capitalize that so no one starts pointing out the inevitable individual exceptions. Italians were at the bottom in society, but I don't see how that figures into what group has the most rats now, which I believe is the topic.
Does anyone know anything about rats, witness protection, and such things in other countries? I would guess that in Mexico no informer would feel safe anywhere due to the corruption. Look at El Chapo, who had his men dig tunnel right into his cell, with no guards detecting it. He had to be imprisoned here. If they could get to him to free him, they could get to anyone in protective custody.
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Re: List Of Rats- Blood/Crips/MS13/Mexican ETC
[Re: alicecooper]
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07/12/22 10:32 PM
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alicecooper
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Historically in America the Mafia had an incredibly low level of rats, almost non-existent. They were strong in that regard. I think many other groups in older days had lower levels too, but the Mafia was tops in that regard. As times changed, so did they. South Americans and Mexicans coming here (Illegally in most cases) are way tougher IN MOST CASES than any American gang. I had to capitalize that so no one starts pointing out the inevitable individual exceptions. Italians were at the bottom in society, but I don't see how that figures into what group has the most rats now, which I believe is the topic.
Does anyone know anything about rats, witness protection, and such things in other countries? I would guess that in Mexico no informer would feel safe anywhere due to the corruption. Look at El Chapo, who had his men dig tunnel right into his cell, with no guards detecting it. He had to be imprisoned here. If they could get to him to free him, they could get to anyone in protective custody. According to the op Mexico has prisons overflowing with rats. I'd like to see a link on that. Forgive me if I'm a bit skeptical.
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