His wife died in suspicious circumstances after becoming an informant.

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And raping women didn't stop John Franzese and Christopher Furnari's ascent through the ranks.

Roy De Meo was made after his crew had an innocent woman murdered. In the same family, Robert Di Bernardo was in a powerful position despite peddling child pornography. Matthew Ianniello was a capo in the Genovese family despite exploiting underage prostitutes.

Mancuso is hardly an outlier here.

Don't get where you are going with that comment but sure.

I did.not know about the Rastelli wife thing though.

Did Rastelli have kids ?

In the old days there were also feuds at a wake so I'm not suprised..

Rusty ended up having to clip his first wife Connie (who was a total hothead and nut job herself) because she actually looked to gun him down in the street after she caught him having an affair with another woman. She actually shot and wounded Rusty, but he survived. Afterwards she wildly (and carelessly) threatened to reveal mob secrets about his rackets to law enforcement. That became another threat (one that he and his associates couldn't take a risk on). So after those incidents it was decided she had to go....and so she went!

They shot her dead one day!

No one likes a woman who talks too much

I am pretty sure Massino either put Mancuso in as A.B.
Or had to give his blessing for it to be consummated as official.

Maybe it was Basciano, who put him in however, the Bonanno’s were a mess at the time, high ranking guys flipping a bunch of them.

Basciano basically usurped the family from the panel that Massino put in.


Then when Basciano got “KNOCKED”
guys that didn’t have the balls to stand up to him when he was on the street starting rebelling….

That’s when Basciano decided to leave bodies on the street.
Bonelli was one hit he ordered that never got done.
Pizzolo- was left in the street as a message to everyone that was all over the board
That Basciano could still touch you even from the inside.

Shortly thereafter Massino flipped and well “………
The “SLOW SINGING & FLOWER BRINGING”

That was all she wrote for that era of the Bonnano family.

The reason I bring this up is
I don’t think the Captians voted Mancuso in,
I think he Mancuso got Jr. Soprano’d

They let this idiot take the “BOSS TITLE” and all the heat that goes with it.
He has been boss for how long I think he spent 95% of the time away.

Yes,but now he is free.

Seems like a dumb mistake. Now what?

Mancuso is out on bail and even if he will return to prison,now he's the boss so I doubt he would be replaced while in prison or someone would try to make a move to take the role.

I believe this more than I believe Capeci's story. Thanks. I hope you can clear more of it up.

Since Joe C and Grimaldi were shelved and had no standing what is the nose even worrying about them for?

Sure, he could tell made guys and associates to stay away but handing out edicts on shelved guys is plain stupid

My thoughts exactly. He can tell his guys not to attend the funeral of a shelved guy but why does he care if a shelved guy goes to the funeral of another shelved guy (who happens to be his relative).

Don't encourage her lol

Right. It doesn't make any sense

Yeah, Jerry Capeci's only covered the mob beat for 40 years or so, initiating contacts on the street, in the DA office, the NYPD etc. What would he know about it? Such a charlatan!

Believe some random person whose secondhand story favors your general viewpoint instead!

Her secondhand may be better than Capeci's third hand account. Capeci will admit when he has it wrong, he already took some
of it back, but I guess you ignore that because his first story, which he changed, favors your general viewpoint instead! Right back at you dummy!

I think Joe Yacovelli also killed his wife after threatening to go to the feds

Haha as soon as she said "So my girlfriend was there" my bullshit meter began spiking like Chris Christie's blood pressure.

Capeci has a proven track record, but I say there's a lot we don't know

I never heard that about Joe Yak. Could be, but if it is, it was a very well kept secret. Because to my knowledge I always thought that Yacovelli was a confirmed bachelor who never took a wife.

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it was him

The big question is why were Made guys at Vito Grimaldi’s wake if he was put on the shelf by Mancuso.? I thought made guys were to stay away from guys on the shelf.
Anyone know the answer to this ?

Rules are broken all the time, it's why they're in such a sorry shape, because they can't stick to protocol.

But again, why were made guys at the wake of a guy put on the shelf?

If Hollywood portrayed Mobsters the way the are in real life, you wouldn't have people glamourizing them as much as they do.

Its not what the movies make them out to be. Many are low life scumbags just like your run of the mill gangbanger. Most are ugly as fuck and don't have any fashion sense whatsoever, and don't really give a fuck about that. Also most are broke living in apartments and not million dollar mansions. The Mob Life is only profitable for the bosses and being an average soldier doesn't mean jack shit. The Mob is far different than it was in the 1950's and 1960's, or even the 1970's.

I'll use an example. Back then if you walked into a restaurant or club , you got VIP service no questions asked. Nowadays? Forget about it. It doesn't guarantee you jack shit because no one gives a fuck about the mob anymore.

In the 1950s-1960s and maybe in the 1970s the mob was the only organizated and transnational oc group. Now that lost the most part of its power is a oc gruop like another but I think that maybe in NYC and NJ the mob is still feared.
Hollywood ever glamourized the criminals: the prohibitions criminals and after the american mafia and now the cartels (Narcos) or the blacks (Empire).
At the end in every criminal organization there many brokesters and very few rich men.

I don't know what people mean whenever they keep saying that Hollywood glamorizes the Mafia, I don't believe it's necessarily the case. After all I've read about the real-life mob over the years, movies like Goodfellas, Casino, Donnie Brasco, and shows like The Sopranos are pretty realistic. The one exception being The Godfather, but if we're comparing Don Corleone and his fellow fictional Mafia dons to bosses like Tommy Lucchese, Carlo Gambino, Joe Bonanno, Joe Profaci, Angelo Bruno, or Joe Zerilli then I believe those are realistic comparisons. That's not the case with bosses like Nicky Scarfo, John Gotti, or Vic Amuso, as they had ZERO sense of what Joe Bonanno called Tradition. They were just street thugs. And many Mafiosi have a lot of fashion sense, whether they're actually sophisticated or not, just like many do not. Many have plenty of money, and many do not. I think it's all a luck of the draw, nothing is set in stone. Nothing is black and white with the Mafia, there are many gray areas.

And as for living in apartments, one gangster in Canada was found living in a $700-a-month apartment but inside police found $19 million worth of possessions. Francesco Del Baso if I'm not mistaken claimed to be a poor grocery store clerk yet was somehow able to gamble away $8 million in casinos over a few years. Looks can be deceiving. As far as them being ugly as fuck, I can't argue with you there. Many are pretty hideous. But should an organization that's supposed to be brutal in nature and have goals for generating billions of dollars in illegal cash consist of a bunch of pretty boys? It would make them look kind of soft in my opinion, kinda like what Twilight did to the vampire genre.

You may be the biggest liar on the internet. Ianiello never was even involved with prostitutes , let along underage ones. Funari was not going through the ranks for rape. You would tell people that they all kill their wives and innocent people all through their years. You openly, and gleefully, lie.