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Why couldn’t Angelo Bruno see his death
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09/01/22 01:26 PM
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I haven’t posted in a while; but I was thinking; How couldn’t Angelo Bruno see his death??
He was having the Cherry Hill Gambino’s deal drugs in his turf but he kept his own guys from doing it (Agitating Caponigro/The Consigliere and guy who ordered his murder)
Did (Bruno) have a feeling he was going to be to be whacked or have any feeling that his guys were plotting against him.
How could Bruno be so out the loop with guys plotting against him??? (Seems like the same situation with Castellano)
I believe the (Cherry Hill Gambino) situation sealed his fate….
Also how was the relationship between Caponigro and Bruno?? Cordial or Strained??
I would love some opinions and input!
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Re: Why couldn’t Angelo Bruno see his death
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My guess is he figured that if the Cherry hill guys kicked up money every month his hands were “CLEAN”
Even if they got pinched they have no “DIRT” on him so not much to worry about there.
That’s how they did it back then with drugs, they took the money and didn’t ask questions. So they can honestly say I don’t know anything about drugs,
I remember reading somewhere that Bruno, sent for Scarfo, at the meeting Bruno was asking Scarfo for his support.
After the meeting Scarfo was saying I can’t believe what just happened The guy banished me to A.C. now look how the tables have turned he needs me….
This was shortly before Bruno got clipped, so he did see it coming and tried to re-align himself with Scarfo, because Scarfo was capable that way.
I am pretty sure I read this in Lionetti’s book.
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Re: Why couldn’t Angelo Bruno see his death
[Re: Zavattoni]
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1. I think he was still in a comfort zone of sorts, despite Carlo passing away - probably didn't even believe it was a threat. It would've never happened if Carlo was still alive obviously.
2. I think the drugs thing is overstated - the Cherry Hill Gambinos were not the only ones pushing drugs with Bruno getting kickbacks. Long John for example, who wasn't even made was also selling drugs and giving kickbacks. Though, it could be one of the reasons that he remained an associate under Bruno, to sorta sidestep the 'rules.' But Harry the Hunchback and his crew also dealt in junk, and kicked up. Like I said, the drugs thing as far as Bruno guys being "jealous" about not being permitted to do it is very overstated. It was like most families, do it but don't get caught.
3. I actually believe the biggest factor was a Commission ruling that took place which favored Caponigro over Funzi Tieri for control of a very large North Jersey book. The Genovese were basically waiting it out, saw an angle and exploited the angle.
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Re: Why couldn’t Angelo Bruno see his death
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My guess is he figured that if the Cherry hill guys kicked up money every month his hands were “CLEAN”
Even if they got pinched they have no “DIRT” on him so not much to worry about there.
That’s how they did it back then with drugs, they took the money and didn’t ask questions. So they can honestly say I don’t know anything about drugs,
I remember reading somewhere that Bruno, sent for Scarfo, at the meeting Bruno was asking Scarfo for his support.
After the meeting Scarfo was saying I can’t believe what just happened The guy banished me to A.C. now look how the tables have turned he needs me….
This was shortly before Bruno got clipped, so he did see it coming and tried to re-align himself with Scarfo, because Scarfo was capable that way.
I am pretty sure I read this in Lionetti’s book.
It is mentioned in Leonetti's book but it mostly refers to his rivalry with Phil Testa. Bruno could sense that something wrong was going on within the family but i don't think he expected it to come from the Jersey faction. In his book, George Fresolone said that Patty Specs told him Caponigro was making a move so it was outthere at some point but Bruno either didn't get the signals or didn't think much of it.
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Re: Why couldn’t Angelo Bruno see his death
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09/02/22 09:43 AM
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It is mentioned in Leonetti's book but it mostly refers to his rivalry with Phil Testa.
Bruno could sense that something wrong was going on within the family but i don't think he expected it to come from the Jersey faction.
In his book, George Fresolone said that Patty Specs told him Caponigro was making a move so it was outthere at some point but Bruno either didn't get the signals or didn't think much of it.
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Off-topic a bit here, but Malavita - How is Leonetti's book? Is it worth the read?
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Re: Why couldn’t Angelo Bruno see his death
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Off-topic a bit here, but Malavita - How is Leonetti's book? Is it worth the read?
For sure. It's one of the best mafia books. I would put it up there with Gravano and Al d'Arco's books as the most informative books you can find on a made guy's "career" in a family.
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Re: Why couldn’t Angelo Bruno see his death
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09/04/22 02:18 AM
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Leonetti's book was a great one. He mentions the Bruno coming to Scarfo. My favorite part is how he talks shit about the life and you never hear from him again. By means of never getting in trouble. He learned his lesson and made a living in the legitimate world. As mentioned, Bruno was on top of his empire, who was going to kill him. Maybe some people get all paranoid like Scarfo and others understand that youre gonna get it one day and there's nothing you can do about it. Did Bruno acquire wealth as the head of the P.A. LCN family? I personally never heard about anyone one from that family "GETTING OFF" from any rackets..
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Re: Why couldn’t Angelo Bruno see his death
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09/05/22 03:06 AM
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I read the book a long time ago. The only part that really sticks out about it was that Leonetti blames everything in Scarfo,
It wasn’t much different than Alit blaming everything on Jr.
He was Crazy Phil to the core until he got pinched And then his uncle made him do it all.
If anyone wants a real good laugh Watch Phil’s interview I forget who the reporter is but he hasn’t done to many of them.
He is SOOOO BURNT this Phil, that the interviewer when he figures out that Phil, married a girl of somehow he killed.
When the interview figures it out he is a little taken back so he asks Phil, don’t you think its a little strange that ( I forget what word he used) that you married this woman after you killed her husband that was your friend.
Phil, looks him in the face dead serious says “WHATS WRONG WITH THAT”?
Like it was perfectly Norman situation.
You have to watch it to see what I mean.
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