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Re: The Mafia being more organized than street gangs?
[Re: FireHawk]
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10/16/22 11:27 AM
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When people say the Mafia, in general, was more organized and proficient than black/hispanic street gangs, how much of this is actually true versus how much of it is somewhat tinted by racism to some extent. I'm not saying there isn't any legitimacy to those claims but i have seen some people use it as a sort of racial way like "oh italians are just smarter people" etc. etc. Off course there are black/hispanic that are organizated enought to make hundred milions with drugs,launder it and invest in legit. But the difference is in the hierarchy: boss,underboss,capo ecc is equal in all the clans,second is the operate in 2 worlds:corrupts judges,cops ecc but also elect politicians at high level positions and so one. I never heard of a black/hispanic oc gruop that controlled an union,controlled a big bank or create a Commission for settle the disputes. Thats the great differences.
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Re: The Mafia being more organized than street gangs?
[Re: FireHawk]
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10/16/22 12:55 PM
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Hispanic gangs were very organized and many still are, The ones that just do street gang drive-by shootings or random violence are not in that group. In America there are all sorts of organizations that get little attention. If we look at Mexico and South America they make the American Mafia look small time. They not only have drugs, but human trafficking, prostitution, and shoplifting rings. Asian gangs have made millions, possibly billions off of counterfeit goods. That's on top of drugs, smuggling, and again prostitution. One of the biggest money makers is identity theft and fraud, which is worldwide, Asia (Especially India) seem to be in the lead there. Eastern Europe is a close second, the American Mafia is way behind.
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Re: The Mafia being more organized than street gangs?
[Re: FireHawk]
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10/16/22 12:56 PM
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Re: The Mafia being more organized than street gangs?
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10/16/22 12:57 PM
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Re: The Mafia being more organized than street gangs?
[Re: Strax]
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10/16/22 07:26 PM
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The mafia is like a freemasonry of crime. In Italy, Freemasonry and the mafia also overlap historically: the Sicilian mafia has its origins in the Masonic secret societies. In Italy they are almost the same, freemasonry being real power of the mafia. Yeah it's also white-collar crime the grey area between upperworld and underworld.
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Re: The Mafia being more organized than street gangs?
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10/17/22 04:50 AM
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Can't believe that there's people here who believe that the Nigerian gangs there are more powerful or will ever be more powerful than the Sicilian Mafia. Bro.... why do yall be acting so slow? This is why people don't come on here as much. I said if you wanna compare the Italian mafia to a black gang, then pick something comparable. Like the Nigerian gangs in In Italy indicted for Mafia association. All that means is that they consolidated enough organizational and economic strength to transcend simple street crime. And be categorized as OC. It's fucking annoying and tiresome how defensive you guys get over this shit. As if the regular Italian people will see Nigerian immigrants in the same way as they see ruling Italian family clans, as psuedo- feudal lords.. As if a Nigerian immigrant could ever control the VOTE of an area. The insecurity is just irritating... You got or rather had.. the GDs, who operate in half the States, have a hierarchy, rules of conduct, a Board of control... it's always Blood and Crips. And they have never actually done anything, really.....
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Re: The Mafia being more organized than street gangs?
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10/17/22 04:57 AM
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Can't believe that there's people here who believe that the Nigerian gangs there are more powerful or will ever be more powerful than the Sicilian Mafia. Bro.... why do yall be acting so slow? This is why people don't come on here as much. I said if you wanna compare the Italian mafia to a black gang, then pick something comparable. Like the Nigerian gangs in In Italy indicted for Mafia association. All that means is that they consolidated enough organizational and economic strength to transcend simple street crime. And be categorized as OC. It's fucking annoying and tiresome how defensive you guys get over this shit. As if the regular Italian people will see Nigerian immigrants in the same way as they see ruling Italian family clans, as psuedo- feudal lords.. As if a Nigerian immigrant could ever control the VOTE of an area. The insecurity is just irritating... You got had the GDs, who operate in half the States, have a hierarchy, rules of conduct, a Board of control... it's always Blood and Crips. And they have never actually done anything, really..... All I was saying was this happened.. The Nigerians are the first foreigners to be prosecuted under Italy's anti-mafia laws. In 2007, 20 Nigerian men were convicted in Turin for crimes dating back to 1999. In 2016, 17 Nigerian men were arrested in Palermo and charged with being members of the mafia.
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