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Re: Mobsters that ruined their blood families
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06/09/23 06:26 PM
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Nicky Scarfo sr led to the suicide of his son,the first son decided to change name and the other Nicky jr must escape his city and was made in an another family and now is in prison until 2037. His nephew Philip Leonetti that was the best executor of his orders prefered to flip to escape from his crazyness. Scarfo sister called him "Satan".
Carmine Persico desire to maintain power despite get 150 y.led to his son as successor and for this he get life also the other sons get various prison sentences.
Don't forget what NIcky said when he heard about his son's suicide in jail: "The kid was soft." Of course Roy DeMeo. His son Albert could never come to terms with his father's acts, he had drug and legal issues and died in 2017 from an alleged suicide. Roy DeMeo's oldest daughter won't even speak to anyone from the DeMeo side of her family. Nino Gaggi skipped over all his kids and forced his nephew Dominick Montiglio into the life and screwed him up real bad and later put out a hit on him. Al Capone's brother moved to Kansas and changed his name and tried to lose his Brooklyn accent because of him. Aniello Dellacroce's son Armond followed his father into organized crime and became a drug addict and alcoholic and died in his early 30s. Carlo Gambino's nephew was influenced by his family to get involved and wound up being kidnapped and killed at 29. There's many more stories like this. Men in that life have no happy ending and their crime involvement affects all of their family members negatively in some way.
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Re: Mobsters that ruined their blood families
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06/09/23 11:23 PM
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Nicky Scarfo sr led to the suicide of his son,the first son decided to change name and the other Nicky jr must escape his city and was made in an another family and now is in prison until 2037. His nephew Philip Leonetti that was the best executor of his orders prefered to flip to escape from his crazyness. Scarfo sister called him "Satan".
Carmine Persico desire to maintain power despite get 150 y.led to his son as successor and for this he get life also the other sons get various prison sentences.
Don't forget what NIcky said when he heard about his son's suicide in jail: "The kid was soft." Of course Roy DeMeo. His son Albert could never come to terms with his father's acts, he had drug and legal issues and died in 2017 from an alleged suicide. Roy DeMeo's oldest daughter won't even speak to anyone from the DeMeo side of her family. Nino Gaggi skipped over all his kids and forced his nephew Dominick Montiglio into the life and screwed him up real bad and later put out a hit on him. Al Capone's brother moved to Kansas and changed his name and tried to lose his Brooklyn accent because of him. Aniello Dellacroce's son Armond followed his father into organized crime and became a drug addict and alcoholic and died in his early 30s. Carlo Gambino's nephew was influenced by his family to get involved and wound up being kidnapped and killed at 29. There's many more stories like this. Men in that life have no happy ending and their crime involvement affects all of their family members negatively in some way. I think Gambino was not in the life, he was kidnappped and killed by that gang McGranney was with. Persico got his sons into the life and in that way can be seen as ruining them, although they were also old enough to make their own choices. I think Dellacroce's son may have become a drug user anyway, who knows.
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Re: Mobsters that ruined their blood families
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Greg ( The Grim Cuckold) Scarpa really ruined his son. He not only got him to come into that life, but with he knowledge his father was a rat. According to the son his father also once wanted him to take a rap for him! I never heard of any mobster telling a son to take a fall for him, there has never been one as low as that. The son wound up in prison till he was old on another case, despite his father and his years of cooperating. Now Greg jr is free because are so sick that cant stay in prison because due the cancer have a hole in his throat. Joseph Schiro also dead in young age for a drug deal gone bad. Patriarca jr must retire because risked to be killed by his own men. Detroit capo Bommarito'son Carlo was allegedly killed with an overdose because the bosses doesnt think he is realible.
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Re: Mobsters that ruined their blood families
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06/10/23 05:11 PM
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Nicky Scarfo sr led to the suicide of his son,the first son decided to change name and the other Nicky jr must escape his city and was made in an another family and now is in prison until 2037. His nephew Philip Leonetti that was the best executor of his orders prefered to flip to escape from his crazyness. Scarfo sister called him "Satan".
Carmine Persico desire to maintain power despite get 150 y.led to his son as successor and for this he get life also the other sons get various prison sentences.
Don't forget what NIcky said when he heard about his son's suicide in jail: "The kid was soft." Of course Roy DeMeo. His son Albert could never come to terms with his father's acts, he had drug and legal issues and died in 2017 from an alleged suicide. Roy DeMeo's oldest daughter won't even speak to anyone from the DeMeo side of her family. Nino Gaggi skipped over all his kids and forced his nephew Dominick Montiglio into the life and screwed him up real bad and later put out a hit on him. Al Capone's brother moved to Kansas and changed his name and tried to lose his Brooklyn accent because of him. Aniello Dellacroce's son Armond followed his father into organized crime and became a drug addict and alcoholic and died in his early 30s. Carlo Gambino's nephew was influenced by his family to get involved and wound up being kidnapped and killed at 29. There's many more stories like this. Men in that life have no happy ending and their crime involvement affects all of their family members negatively in some way. I think Gambino was not in the life, he was kidnappped and killed by that gang McGranney was with. Nope, Manny Gambino ran a numbers game for the Gambino family. Henry Sentner, one of the men who wound up kidnapping Manny with McBratney, worked for Manny as a policy runner.
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Re: Mobsters that ruined their blood families
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I don't think Manny Gambino was that i involved, if he was at all. That is a story a couple of FBI agents told years later. I have noticed that there was an intense and succseeful campaign to portray McBratney as a saint by many people, including law enforcement. I think that it's due to the fact that Gotti killed him, and they feel that if he sounds like a nice guy ("He read books and wanted to be an honest man" that it makes Gotti look worse.
Manny Gambino had long hair and a mustache. No way he is made. With that look Carlo Gambino would not have even let him be involved. They did claim Senter killed him, but meanwhile nothing came of it. I think that all those original pre-Gotti reports were truthful, McBratney and friend kidnapped Gambino, collected the ransom, and then killed him anyway.
Ed Leibman of the Cosa Nostra Fake News site is one who pushes the McBratney was a nice guy, Manny Gambino was a thug story.
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Re: Mobsters that ruined their blood families
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06/12/23 12:37 AM
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In Underboss,Gravano talks about a Matty Gambino who has a piece of a bar with John Rizzo,a gambino family old timer and Gravano who was with Shorty Spero at the time i believe a colombo.Anyway The Bull says this Matty comes in and abuses everyone verbally knowing noone will fight back because of his uncle Carlo,Gravano finally had enough and threatens to put his foot up Matty Gambinos ass.A huge sit down over this occurs with Persico telling Sammy the Bull he did the right thing and from that point forward Matty will come in as a mouse.If this Matty is the same as Manny then he was for sure in the life somewhat having a piece of bars with made members and guys like Gravano who were killers even then.The Senter that was involved in the Gambino kidnapping and killing I have read was kin to Anthony the Gemini twin.
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Re: Mobsters that ruined their blood families
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Scarfo Sr was doing his "job" but it was during the wrong time period when there were too many informants and the feds were all about CN. If Scarfo was boss during the 1930s and 40s, today we were probably going to chat about one of the most notorious and also powerful bosses of all times lol He ordered so many murders,including Salvie Testa because a newspaper called the mafia crown prince that everybody eas afraid to die so decide to flip. Caramandi used the Scarfo name for an extortion,in another family he should serve his time and stop but he was afraid that Scarfo should order to kill him in prison. If Scarfo sr should understood that Cosa Nostra is not pull the trigger for everything but work in the shadow even if the feds would find a rat,they should remaine the philly boss until his death.
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