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Re: The Mobs biggest psychopaths.
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Sam DeStafano, Scarpa, Felix Alderiso, Joe Waverly, Joe Watts, Frank Schweighs, Lefty Ruggiero, Scarfo Joe Watts is not a psychopath. Not even close. Tough guy? Sure. Deadly? That depends on your actions. I've never heard of him hurting anyone who didn't have it coming.
But you had to play it cool, had to do it your way Had to be a fool, had to throw it all away
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Re: The Mobs biggest psychopaths.
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Sam DeStafano, Scarpa, Felix Alderiso, Joe Waverly, Joe Watts, Frank Schweighs, Lefty Ruggiero, Scarfo Joe Watts is not a psychopath. Not even close. Tough guy? Sure. Deadly? That depends on your actions. I've never heard of him hurting anyone who didn't have it coming. To be honest, I just threw out a bunch of names of guys who off the top of my head who put it in alot of "work." Thats on me, and apologies if I offended or gave out bad info.
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Re: The Mobs biggest psychopaths.
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We can all talk about this or that mobster....but when it comes down to being a real psycho and also making A LOT of cash at the same time, Sam "Dyno" aka "Mad Sam" Destefano was second to none. Maybe we can include Tommy Pitera in the mix too but still, I believe DeStefano was the real deal, and there was no other more "dangerous patient" like him in the whole US mob at the time. Telling to some of his victims that they are going to be a sacrifice to Satan, or putting them into a meat grinder or even urinating in someones drink, or running almost naked before the judge and all newspaper men and showing surgical scars, followed by forcing his own wife to have sex with a black dude at gunpoint or comin in pajamas around some of the famous night clubs at the time....i mean WOW lol If Pitera ever met "Dyno", Pitera was probably going to be like "Dude, what the fuck?!" Lol
But by the end of the day DeStefano was one of the biggest loan sharks at the time and also financed many dope deals and also controlled burglary crews and gambling operators. So DeStefano was bringing millions and also had the balls to say to Giancana something like "Fuck off" or something to that extent, obviously because they were friends for a very long time period.
Mongol General: Conan, what is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
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Re: The Mobs biggest psychopaths.
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Sam DeStafano, Scarpa, Felix Alderiso, Joe Waverly, Joe Watts, Frank Schweighs, Lefty Ruggiero, Scarfo On Sam DeStafano, Scarpa I agree. I don't think Lefty Ruggerio or Joe Watts fit the profile. I believe Valachi was actually ruled insane before he testified but it was kept secret. Prison doctors examine him and said so, then later it was revealed many in his family were suicides or committed to mental institutions.
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Re: The Mobs biggest psychopaths.
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....in addition to my previous post, besides being a total psycho, torturer and a murderer, I already said that during the 50s and 60s he was making millions out various rackets but one of the most interesting thing for me is that DeStefano corrupted so many cops to the level which some of DeStefanos juice victims were brought in police cars straight to his headquarters. Story goes that he had whole police squads on juice and so they had to work it out somehow, and obviously one of the things was to find some of his juice victims and to bring them over to him. One of DeStefanos crazy statements on national televesion while counting money in front of all news reporters, was that he can lend money even to the US President if he wanted to, or something to that extent, was somehow true lol
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Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
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Re: The Mobs biggest psychopaths.
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....in addition to my previous post, besides being a total psycho, torturer and a murderer, I already said that during the 50s and 60s he was making millions out various rackets but one of the most interesting thing for me is that DeStefano corrupted so many cops to the level which some of DeStefanos juice victims were brought in police cars straight to his headquarters. Story goes that he had whole police squads on juice and so they had to work it out somehow, and obviously one of the things was to find some of his juice victims and to bring them over to him. One of DeStefanos crazy statements on national televesion while counting money in front of all news reporters, was that he can lend money even to the US President if he wanted to, or something to that extent, was somehow true lol This guy deserves a film made about how scary he was. 100%
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Re: The Mobs biggest psychopaths.
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when Tony Spilotro blasted him a few times with the shotgun in his garage/driveway. Spilotro and DeStefano's brother Mario (another made guy) were allegedly the two hitmen. Interesting to note is that Mario killed his brother Sam, while previously both of them (Sam and Mario) killed their third brother Michael DeStefano who in turn was allegedly a junkie. "Family tradition" lol
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Re: The Mobs biggest psychopaths.
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when Tony Spilotro blasted him a few times with the shotgun in his garage/driveway. Spilotro and DeStefano's brother Mario (another made guy) were allegedly the two hitmen. Interesting to note is that Mario killed his brother Sam, while previously both of them (Sam and Mario) killed their third brother Michael DeStefano who in turn was allegedly a junkie. "Family tradition" lol Yep, Mario walked in front of Tony to block Sam's view of the shotgun and then Tony blew Sam's arm almost off at the elbow before he hit him in the chest. That photo of Sam laying dead on his back with his beady black rodent eyes......Wonder if they had to perform an exorcism or something on Sam's torture chamber in the basement? I also wonder how much $$$$ Sam had stashed in that house, he was making millions of dollars and for a long time. All the abuse he gave his wife and you can hear her wailing and calling out for Sam on that news footage they had when the police were at the crime scene to do an investigation with Sam's corpse covered up by a sheet in the garage and Sam's wife came home.
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Re: The Mobs biggest psychopaths.
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I believe that he killed people, just wasn't the mob hitman he claimed. Not a single photo of him anywhere with any mobsters. You talking about Mad Sam or Spilotro? Btw, they both belonged to the same crew under Battaglia, Alderisio and Nicoletti. Mad Sam was more of a torturer and sadistic murderer then a hitman, while Spilotro was also a torturer who learned from Mad Sam and Nicoletti, but he was more of a professional hitman who did jobs almost everywhere around the midwest. Also heres a pic of Mad Sam (left) from the 1930s together with Dominick Monaco... ![[Linked Image]](https://i.ibb.co/RpnWW4J/Screenshot-20230815-101156-Chrome.jpg)
Mongol General: Conan, what is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
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Re: The Mobs biggest psychopaths.
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I'm talking about Richard Kuklinski Oh ok. Sorry. Kuklinski probably wrote Alice in Wonderland lol lol
Mongol General: Conan, what is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
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Re: The Mobs biggest psychopaths.
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I believe that he killed people, just wasn't the mob hitman he claimed. Not a single photo of him anywhere with any mobsters. You talking about Mad Sam or Spilotro? Btw, they both belonged to the same crew under Battaglia, Alderisio and Nicoletti. Mad Sam was more of a torturer and sadistic murderer then a hitman, while Spilotro was also a torturer who learned from Mad Sam and Nicoletti, but he was more of a professional hitman who did jobs almost everywhere around the midwest. Also heres a pic of Mad Sam (left) from the 1930s together with Dominick Monaco... ![[Linked Image]](https://i.ibb.co/RpnWW4J/Screenshot-20230815-101156-Chrome.jpg) Great photograph TD. I never saw this. (or sam as a really young guy)
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Re: The Mobs biggest psychopaths.
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I'm talking about Richard Kuklinski Oh ok. Sorry. Kuklinski probably wrote Alice in Wonderland lol lol How many victims do you think fell to the Iceman? Serious number please.
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Re: The Mobs biggest psychopaths.
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I'm talking about Richard Kuklinski Oh ok. Sorry. Kuklinski probably wrote Alice in Wonderland lol lol How many victims do you think fell to the Iceman? Serious number please. Not remotely near the number he claims.
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Re: The Mobs biggest psychopaths.
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I'm talking about Richard Kuklinski Oh ok. Sorry. Kuklinski probably wrote Alice in Wonderland lol lol How many victims do you think fell to the Iceman? Serious number please. He was convicted of 5 i believe. Maybe he got away for 2-3, but I’m skeptical of even that.
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