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Re: Was Pittsburgh Numbers King Tony Grosso Connected?
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Although Grosso was never made,there is some speculation that because of the sheer volume of his business (15-20 million/year), he was paying off the Mob to be allowed to operate. There has never been any credible information to support this. Abe Zeid,a Jewish gangster,who was closely involved with the Mannarino brothers in New Ken,as well as other O.C figures,and who turned snitch,stated that some Pittsburgh Mob members discussed either taking over,or demanding a cut of Grosso's operation. Supposedly John LaRocca wouldn't sanction it because of the police protection that Grosso had. Tony paid off a lot of cops,all the way up to Lawrence Maloney,the Pittsburgh Police Deputy Superintendent. Grosso put so many cop's kids through college that he could have his own Scholarship Fund.
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Re: Was Pittsburgh Numbers King Tony Grosso Connected?
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Although Grosso was never made,there is some speculation that because of the sheer volume of his business (15-20 million/year), he was paying off the Mob to be allowed to operate. There has never been any credible information to support this. Abe Zeid,a Jewish gangster,who was closely involved with the Mannarino brothers in New Ken,as well as other O.C figures,and who turned snitch,stated that some Pittsburgh Mob members discussed either taking over,or demanding a cut of Grosso's operation. Supposedly John LaRocca wouldn't sanction it because of the police protection that Grosso had. Tony paid off a lot of cops,all the way up to Lawrence Maloney,the Pittsburgh Police Deputy Superintendent. Grosso put so many cop's kids through college that he could have his own Scholarship Fund. That because pittsburgh was a small family,in NY he would be forced to paid a tribute for don't be killed.
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Re: Was Pittsburgh Numbers King Tony Grosso Connected?
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I believe that "Junior" also bought Charlies Roost from Jo Jo's Sons in laws and restored it to it's original beauty.
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Re: Was Pittsburgh Numbers King Tony Grosso Connected?
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How do Italians end up with the name Williams? Salvatore Williams? Their birth name is actually Gugliielmo. Besides the numbers racket,they ran a jewelry business and also a deli. The deli was in a building owned by Anthony Ripepi,a long-time Pittsburgh Mafioso.
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Re: Was Pittsburgh Numbers King Tony Grosso Connected?
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Re: Was Pittsburgh Numbers King Tony Grosso Connected?
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How do Italians end up with the name Williams? Salvatore Williams? Their birth name is actually Gugliielmo. From Italian, converted to English, Guglielmo translates to William. Like "Black Bill" Tocco, his real name was Guglielmo Tocco...
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Re: Was Pittsburgh Numbers King Tony Grosso Connected?
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How do Italians end up with the name Williams? Salvatore Williams? Their birth name is actually Gugliielmo. Besides the numbers racket,they ran a jewelry business and also a deli. The deli was in a building owned by Anthony Ripepi,a long-time Pittsburgh Mafioso. Why they need to traslate the surname?
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Re: Was Pittsburgh Numbers King Tony Grosso Connected?
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There is also another theory, that although Grosso wasn't directly connected to mob guys, he stayed friendly with them, and they with him. But that he was never "shaken down" for an envelope because of the fact that he was very close to many top members of law enforcement and nobody wanted to run afoul of him.
It's also suspected that through his police connections and the suspected "bribery pad" he ran, that was how he ingratiated himself with mob guys. I guess maybe he helped some of them avoid getting busted, so that's how he "serviced" them, without having to cough up monthly cash himself. He used the police to raid numbers rackets who were his main competitors. Many of them Larocca family operations
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