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Re: Israel: 'State of war'
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'Spionnen van Mossad saboteerden piepers van Hezbollah’ De grootschalige pieperaanslag in Libanon en Syrië dinsdagmiddag was mogelijk doordat spionnen van de Israëlische geheime dienst, Mossad, de apparaatjes in handen kreeg voordat deze naar Hezbollah gingen, schrijft Sky News Arabia.
Mossad zou een hoeveelheid van de chemische stof pentaerythritoltetranitraat (PETN), een zeer explosief goedje, op de batterijen van de piepers hebben geplaatst en deze laten ontploffen door op afstand de batterijtemperatuur te verhogen, schrijft het Arabische nieuwsmedium.
Een woordvoerder van Hezbollah vertelde aan de Amerikaanse Wall Street Journal dat een aantal Hezbollah-terroristen de apparaatjes in hun zak voelde opwarmen en ze net op tijd konden weggooien voordat ze explodeerden. Bronnen melden aan nieuwsmedium Al Jazeera dat er minder dan 20 gram PETN in elk toestel was geplaatst en dat de piepers vijf maanden geleden waren geïmporteerd.
Onderzoek moet uitwijzen hoe de toestellen op afstand tot explosie konden worden gebracht.
I don't wanna sound rude, but I'm really not understanding this
But you had to play it cool, had to do it your way Had to be a fool, had to throw it all away
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Re: Israel: 'State of war'
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'Spionnen van Mossad saboteerden piepers van Hezbollah’ De grootschalige pieperaanslag in Libanon en Syrië dinsdagmiddag was mogelijk doordat spionnen van de Israëlische geheime dienst, Mossad, de apparaatjes in handen kreeg voordat deze naar Hezbollah gingen, schrijft Sky News Arabia.
Mossad zou een hoeveelheid van de chemische stof pentaerythritoltetranitraat (PETN), een zeer explosief goedje, op de batterijen van de piepers hebben geplaatst en deze laten ontploffen door op afstand de batterijtemperatuur te verhogen, schrijft het Arabische nieuwsmedium.
Een woordvoerder van Hezbollah vertelde aan de Amerikaanse Wall Street Journal dat een aantal Hezbollah-terroristen de apparaatjes in hun zak voelde opwarmen en ze net op tijd konden weggooien voordat ze explodeerden. Bronnen melden aan nieuwsmedium Al Jazeera dat er minder dan 20 gram PETN in elk toestel was geplaatst en dat de piepers vijf maanden geleden waren geïmporteerd.
Onderzoek moet uitwijzen hoe de toestellen op afstand tot explosie konden worden gebracht.
I don't wanna sound rude, but I'm really not understanding this Sorry it's the same article as the one in English.
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Re: Israel: 'State of war'
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'Spionnen van Mossad saboteerden piepers van Hezbollah’ De grootschalige pieperaanslag in Libanon en Syrië dinsdagmiddag was mogelijk doordat spionnen van de Israëlische geheime dienst, Mossad, de apparaatjes in handen kreeg voordat deze naar Hezbollah gingen, schrijft Sky News Arabia.
Mossad zou een hoeveelheid van de chemische stof pentaerythritoltetranitraat (PETN), een zeer explosief goedje, op de batterijen van de piepers hebben geplaatst en deze laten ontploffen door op afstand de batterijtemperatuur te verhogen, schrijft het Arabische nieuwsmedium.
Een woordvoerder van Hezbollah vertelde aan de Amerikaanse Wall Street Journal dat een aantal Hezbollah-terroristen de apparaatjes in hun zak voelde opwarmen en ze net op tijd konden weggooien voordat ze explodeerden. Bronnen melden aan nieuwsmedium Al Jazeera dat er minder dan 20 gram PETN in elk toestel was geplaatst en dat de piepers vijf maanden geleden waren geïmporteerd.
Onderzoek moet uitwijzen hoe de toestellen op afstand tot explosie konden worden gebracht.
I don't wanna sound rude, but I'm really not understanding this Sorry it's the same article as the one in English. No worries. Just post exclusively in Dutch! We'll just hit 'translate'. It's just one button
But you had to play it cool, had to do it your way Had to be a fool, had to throw it all away
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Re: Israel: 'State of war'
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Lol that would be funny. Maybe some other day Dutch is probably the easiest language to learn for English speakers as it positions itself somewhere between German and English. I did understand the word "door" from that text. Sadly, that was about it lol. By the way, this word "pentaerythritoltetranitraat" almost brought on a stroke
But you had to play it cool, had to do it your way Had to be a fool, had to throw it all away
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Re: Israel: 'State of war'
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On 17 September 2024, around 3,000 pagers simultaneously exploded across Lebanon and Syria in an apparent coordinated attack during the ongoing conflict between Israel and the Hezbollah political party and militant group. Hezbollah blames this extraordinary attack, on Israel. Pagers in deadly attack on Hezbollah ‘made in Europe’, as Middle East braces for reprisals. Taiwanese company Gold Apollo says a company in Europe made the pagers used. Was that you Hollander Those wounded in the attack include Iran’s ambassador to Beirut, Mojtaba Amani, according to reports. Iran’s ambassador carrying Iranian-led terrorist pager
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Re: Israel: 'State of war'
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They are now saying the pagers were produced in Hungary, Israelli security have strong links in that country.. Pagers are now uncommon in most Western countries, but were widely used in the 1980s and 1990s. Mr Hunter says his initial theory - based on injuries - suggests the blasts are "consistent with 1 to 2 ounces of high explosive. And you could certainly get that amount in a pager. "We've seen ETA [a separatist group operating in Spain], we've seen the Colombian groups, we've seen the provisional IRA use pagers as explosive devices," he said. https://news.sky.com/story/explodin...-technology-against-its-enemies-13216769
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Re: Israel: 'State of war'
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From: The Guardian September 18, 2024
One Hezbollah official, speaking on condition of anonymity said the detonation was the group’s “biggest security breach” since the Gaza conflict erupted on 7 October when Hamas launched attacks in southern Israel, killing 1,200 people and taking about 250 people hostage.
Jonathan Panikoff, the US government’s former deputy national intelligence officer on the Middle East, said: “This would easily be the biggest counter-intelligence failure that Hezbollah has had in decades”
The apparent sabotage attack follows months of targeted assassinations by Israel against senior Hezbollah leaders and has ratcheted up tensions between Israel and Hezbollah.
An uneasy calm had prevailed in the past three weeks when both parties had appeared to step back from the brink of a regional war after a limited Hezbollah response in late August to Israel’s assassination of its top military commander, Fuad Shukur, in Beirut.
The attack also threatens to derail efforts by the US to prevent Iran, which backs the Lebanese Shia militia, from retaliating against Israel for the July 2024 bombing in Tehran that killed the Hamas political leader Ismail Haniyeh.
The US state department spokesperson, Matthew Miller, said it was “too early to say” how it would affect Gaza ceasefire talks Miller told a briefing “the US was not involved and did not know who was responsible”
Hamas described the attack as an “escalation” that would lead to Israel’s defeat.
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Re: Israel: 'State of war'
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It seems, the primary objective of the Hezbollah exploding pagers and now also walkie-talkies, was to sabotage Hezbollah's main communication Network and causing mayhem, panic and paranoia -- any collateral death, injury, other damage is not undesired That's top notch hacking impressive No doubt. Phenomenal They are apparently throwing out Microwave ovens, not taking deliveries, not venturing out etc. because of the wide spread fear as intended
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Re: Israel: 'State of war'
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Walkie-Talkies this time not pagers old school shit.
Second day of deadly explosions: At least 20 people were killed and more than 450 were injured after walkie-talkies detonated Wednesday in Lebanon, according to officials, a day after a wave of pager explosions killed at least 12 people and injured more than 2,800.
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Israeli military says it struck several Hezbollah "infrastructure sites" in southern Lebanon From CNN’s Mohammed Tawfeeq The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said Wednesday it struck several Hezbollah “infrastructure sites” in southern Lebanon.
The Israeli military “struck a Hezbollah launcher” as well as “infrastructure sites in the areas of Halta, Kfarkela, Odaisseh, and Chama in southern Lebanon,” the IDF said in a statement.
The strikes came after “approximately 20 projectiles were identified crossing from Lebanon” into the country’s northern-most territory, known as the Upper Galilee, the IDF added.
The IDF said it had intercepted “some of the projectiles,” and no injuries were reported.
Hezbollah claimed to have attacked several Israeli military sites in northern Israel with rockets throughout Wednesday. The Iran-backed militant group described those attacks as being in support of Palestinians in Gaza.
The group also announced the deaths of at least 11 members on Wednesday but did not give details on the circumstances.
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Re: Israel: 'State of war'
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Pager explosions will devastate Hezbollah's morale and manpowerBBC by Paul Adams Diplomatic correspondent in Jerusalem 18 September 2024 Doesn't the Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah use pagers and/or walkie-talkies.... Extracts: - Hezbollah's exploding pagers and now also walkie-talkies
It is hard to think of an attack more calculated to sow fear and confusion Hezbollah relies heavily on pagers for the group’s communications. Mobile phones have long since been abandoned as simply too vulnerable - as Israel’s assassination of a Hamas bombmaker demonstrated as long ago as 1996 But today’s attacks of Hezbollah's exploding pagers and now also walkie-talkies, were terrifying in their scope Hezbollah members were blown up in supermarkets, on the street, in their cars, at home, next to their children Incidents were reported from all across Lebanon, from Beirut to the Bekaa Valley. Even from neighbouring Syria Iranian state TV confirmed that Tehran’s ambassador in Lebanon was among those injured Iran’s ambassador carrying Iranian-led terrorist pager Each explosion may have been small but some resulted in catastrophic injuries One particularly graphic image showed a lifeless young man slumped in a barber’s chair, his face bloodied At a time when Hezbollah and Israel have been locked in a low-level war for almost a year, these attacks will have devastating consequences for Hezbollah’s manpower, communications and morale Israel has yet to comment but this was undoubtedly its work - no other group or country has the motivation or capacity to do something like this It is the latest in a series of sophisticated military and undercover operations that have included since mid-July 2024 a long-range air raid in Yemen as well as assassinations in Beirut and Tehran
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Re: Israel: 'State of war'
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Pager explosions will devastate Hezbollah's morale and manpowerBBC by Paul Adams Diplomatic correspondent in Jerusalem 18 September 2024 Extracts: - Do the pager attacks herald a larger Israeli operation?
With large numbers of Hezbollah's personnel now injured and its vital communication network massively - and embarrassingly - disrupted, this would clearly be a tempting moment for Israel to take advantage Israeli leaders have been signalling, in recent days, their desire to alter the military status quo along the Lebanese border On Sunday, Israel’s Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, said Israel needed “a change in the balance of power on our northern border" Tens of thousands of Israeli citizens have spent most of a year away from their homes. Israel ordered an evacuation of vulnerable northern communities when Hezbollah started firing rockets into northern Israel, soon after the Gaza war began Months of retaliatory Israeli air strikes have also forced huge numbers of Lebanese civilians to abandon their homes On Monday, Mr Netanyahu and his defence minister, Yoav Gallant, both warned a visiting US official that Israel was prepared to do whatever it took to ensure its security For the first time, the government also said its Gaza war aims included allowing Israelis to return to their homes, raising the spectre of a wider conflict, possibly involving a limited ground invasion to create a buffer zone in southern Lebanon There are no signs yet of the sort of build up of men and armour that would be needed for a major military incursion but today’s attacks represent yet another dangerous escalation It is hard to see how Hezbollah won’t feel compelled to respond in some way
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Re: Israel: 'State of war'
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Pager explosions will devastate Hezbollah's morale and manpowerBBC by Paul Adams Diplomatic correspondent in Jerusalem 18 September 2024 Extracts: - It is hard to think of an attack more calculated to sow fear and confusion -- terrifying in their scope
- Hezbollah members were blown up in supermarkets, on the street, in their cars, at home, next to their children
- At a time when Hezbollah and Israel have been locked in a low-level war for almost a year, these attacks will have devastating consequences for Hezbollah’s manpower, communications and morale
- With large numbers of Hezbollah's personnel now injured and its vital communication network massively - and embarrassingly - disrupted, this would clearly be a tempting moment for Israel to take advantage
Please! Strike while the Iron is hot. Please! Not another missed opportunityMany in the Israeli security establishment rued what they saw as a missed historic opportunity in September 2003 when they had planes ready to bomb a house where the entire Hamas leadership was holding a meeting.
After furious argument in the military chain of command, the air force used a precision missile fired into the presumed meeting room, rather than flattening the whole building with a hail of bombs, out of concern for civilian casualties.
They picked the wrong room and the Hamas leaders survived.
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Re: Israel: 'State of war'
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US urges Australia to reject UN resolution on Israeli withdrawal from Gaza and the West BankSkynews.com.au by Digital Reporter Oscar Godsell 17 September 2024 Extracts: The United States has urged Australia to turn down a controversial [ultra extreme] United Nations (UN) resolution demanding Israel withdraw from Gaza and the West Bank The eight-page draft - has called for Israel to “end without delay its unlawful presence in the Occupied Palestinian Territory”
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1. a complete and unconditional withdrawal from Gaza 2. evacuation of Israeli settlers from the West Bank 3. and reparations for Palestinians - Palestine also demanded sanctions and travel bans on Israelis linked to the occupation and a ban on weapons sales to Tel Aviv
1. The resolution has omitted any reference to terror and terrorists Hamas or its recent terrorist attack on Israel 2. There was also no recognition of hostages still held by Hamas in Gaza The US has since strongly condemned the draft resolution and urged its allies to reject – or at least *abstain – from voting on the resolution when it’s put forward on Thursday 19 September 2024 Yes vote is a vote for terrorism -- Rewarding the terrorists*"We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor Never the victim Silence encourages the tormentor Never the tormented" Elie Wiesel 1928-2016
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Re: Israel: 'State of war'
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UNGA votes to demand Israel end Palestinian occupationABC Australia by Brad Ryan in Washington DC with wires 19 September 2024 Extracts: - United Nations General Assembly votes to demand Israel end Palestinian occupation
The United Nations General Assembly UN long dominated by countries hostile to Israel has overwhelmingly voted in favour of a Palestinian resolution demanding Israel end its "unlawful presence" in Gaza and the occupied West Bank within a year The vote in the 193-member world body was 124-14 with Australia one of *43 member states to abstain Voting results of UNGA resolution -- Yes: 124 | No: 14 | Abstentions: 43 | Non-Voting: 12 | Total voting membership: 193 The United States voted against it Iran and Russia voted Yes Iran and Russia being a part of the UN shows what a joke it is Belgium, France, Japan and New Zealand also voted Yes *Including Australia, Britain, Canada, Denmark, Germany, India, Italy, Netherlands, Sweden, Switzerland and !Ukraine ! The resolution was adopted as troubled efforts to broker a ceasefire deal in Gaza press ahead US Secretary of State Antony Blinken is holding meetings with mediators in Egypt even as attacks elsewhere in the region — including a fresh wave of explosions across Lebanon — raise fears of escalating conflict in the Middle East Riyad Mansour, the Palestinian UN ambassador, called the vote a turning point "in our struggle for freedom and justice" Israel's UN ambassador, Danny Danon, said the vote showed the general assembly "continues to dance to the music of the Palestinian Authority, which backs the Hamas murderers" The resolution is the first put forward by the Palestinian Authority since member states, including Australia, voted to give it new rights and privileges, in July 2024 They include a seat among UN members in the assembly hall and the right to propose draft resolutions The US called it "one-sided" because it did not recognise that Hamas still exerted power in Gaza, nor state that Israel had a right to defend itself from terrorism "This resolution will not bring about tangible progress for Palestinians," the US mission argued "In fact, it could both complicate efforts to end the conflict in Gaza and impede reinvigorating steps toward a two-state solution, while ignoring Israel's very real security concerns" Unlike in the UN Security Council, the US does not have veto powers in the General Assembly
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Re: Israel: 'State of war'
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UNGA votes to demand Israel end Palestinian occupationABC Australia by Brad Ryan in Washington DC with wires 19 September 2024 Extracts: among others, - controversial United Nations (UN) resolution demands the withdrawal of all Israeli forces and the evacuation of settlers from the occupied Palestinian territories "without delay"
- It calls for Israel to pay reparations to Palestinians for the damage caused by its occupation
Neither the resolution, nor the World Court's advisory ruling, are legally binding The resolution asks UN secretary-general Antonio Guterres to submit a report within three months on putting the resolution in place “We fully abide by the decisions of the International Court of Justice" Mr Guterres told reporters "I will implement any decision of the general assembly in that regard" Palestinian UN ambassador, Riyad Mansour, said "Israel probably wouldn't pay attention to the resolution and that the Palestinians would then follow up with a stronger one" Israel's UN ambassador, Danny Danon, said "the vote showed the general assembly "continues to dance to the music of the Palestinian Authority, which backs the Hamas murderers" FACT SHEET: Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Israel Publish Date: 11 June 2024 Extracts: Antonio Guterres follows a worrisome trend in his handling of antisemitism as UN Secretary General -- UN long dominated by countries hostile to Israel 1. The resolution has omitted any reference to terror and terrorists Hamas or its recent terrorist attack on Israel 2. There was also no recognition of hostages still held by Hamas in Gaza Again, there is no equivalence between Democratic Israel and murderous terrorists
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Re: Israel: 'State of war'
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Pager explosions will devastate Hezbollah's morale and manpowerBBC by Paul Adams Diplomatic correspondent in Jerusalem 18 September 2024 Extracts: - Do the pager attacks herald a larger Israeli operation?
With large numbers of Hezbollah's personnel now injured and its vital communication network massively - and embarrassingly - disrupted, this would clearly be a tempting moment for Israel to take advantage Israeli leaders have been signalling, in recent days, their desire to alter the military status quo along the Lebanese border F**k with the bull, get the horn.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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