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Re: Pluses and Minuses of so-called "made men"
[Re: Liggio]
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10/22/23 09:39 PM
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Re. target on your back: Here's a quote from "The Digger's Game" by George V. Higgins (who also wrote "The Friends of Eddie Coyle"). In this scene, a Mob guy is telling an associat that the Don likes him and is talking him up for getting made. Here's what the associate replies:
"Sooner or later they catch up with some guy, got made the same time as you, he's gonna spill his guts as usual.Then you go to bed at night, you got a state cop under the window. In the morning, you get up, FBI onna doorstep. The afternoon, you're having lunch, Treasury guys swap the FBI guys off. Internal Revenue in the dinnertime. Fuck that. My idea, getting made's a great idea, you want police protection. Otherwise, fuck it."
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Pluses and Minuses of so-called "made men"
[Re: Millspgh]
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10/22/23 10:36 PM
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A plus is when you are doing time, the other “made” men and associates and probably other criminal organizations will give you a little more respect while you are in the can. Plus the others might be more willing to strike up a business relationship while inside with guys who are “made”. On the street you might be able to win a couple more sit downs if you’re “made”, but no guarantees.
Plus of not being made- don’t have to answer to as many people or possibly kick up as much.
I think doing time is the only advantage of being “made” these days. I know that Henry never wanted to be made as he felt it would put a bigger target on his back for the Feds to shoot at. However, when Michael sent him to Youngstown to rein in Lenny he had to be made for Lenny to do as he was told.
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Re: Pluses and Minuses of so-called "made men"
[Re: Friend of Henry]
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10/23/23 07:28 AM
10/23/23 07:28 AM
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Millspgh
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A plus is when you are doing time, the other “made” men and associates and probably other criminal organizations will give you a little more respect while you are in the can. Plus the others might be more willing to strike up a business relationship while inside with guys who are “made”. On the street you might be able to win a couple more sit downs if you’re “made”, but no guarantees.
Plus of not being made- don’t have to answer to as many people or possibly kick up as much.
I think doing time is the only advantage of being “made” these days. I know that Henry never wanted to be made as he felt it would put a bigger target on his back for the Feds to shoot at. However, when Michael sent him to Youngstown to rein in Lenny he had to be made for Lenny to do as he was told. Great stuff as always FOH. I hope you are well my friend.
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Re: Pluses and Minuses of so-called "made men"
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10/23/23 07:50 AM
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Re: Pluses and Minuses of so-called "made men"
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10/23/23 03:09 PM
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I disagree on that one, 90% of them get in the life of crime when they are still teens 15-16 years old , because they have no other choice, in rich parts there is almost no crime , especially no organized crime , because people have other choices , no one will join that life because they want to live a life of crime , sure there are some but thats like 10% of them.
Take a look at whats happening in Naples with kids joining Camorra,they have no idea about the life they want to have at 15 years old , but they need new clothes, new shoes , new phone and so on , to impress surroundings ,they can't get it from parents because of bad economic situation, easiest way to get that stuff ? Well crime.
Last edited by Strax; 10/23/23 03:12 PM.
"A fish with his mouth closed never get's caught"
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Re: Pluses and Minuses of so-called "made men"
[Re: Strax]
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10/23/23 03:41 PM
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I disagree on that one, 90% of them get in the life of crime when they are still teens 15-16 years old , because they have no other choice, in rich parts there is almost no crime , especially no organized crime , because people have other choices , no one will join that life because they want to live a life of crime , sure there are some but thats like 10% of them.
Take a look at whats happening in Naples with kids joining Camorra,they have no idea about the life they want to have at 15 years old , but they need new clothes, new shoes , new phone and so on , to impress surroundings ,they can't get it from parents because of bad economic situation, easiest way to get that stuff ? Well crime. Look its not the 1940's anymore. These guys aren't being born into dirt poor Italian Families that do not speak english and they have to drop out of school to support their parents or siblings. They are born into money for the most part in 2023. Why the fuck would any of them join the mob to pay for a new pair of shoes or phone? Makes no sense. Now this is just my opinion Strax so take it for what it is. The young guys today join for one reason...... status. They want to be known as a mobster, and they think the lifestyle is fun. This is why when they are finally arrested and the FBI knocks down their door, they fuckin flip and become a fuckin rat. They are not in it for the right reasons like how the old school guys were. OMERTA does not exist to them. Its all about women, partying, and $$$. That is pretty fuckin pathetic and an insult to the men who were in it for the right reasons. BTW this is in regards to the American LCN, not the Mafia in Italy.
Last edited by RushStreet; 10/23/23 03:45 PM.
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Re: Pluses and Minuses of so-called "made men"
[Re: Strax]
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10/23/23 03:43 PM
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I disagree on that one, 90% of them get in the life of crime when they are still teens 15-16 years old , because they have no other choice, in rich parts there is almost no crime , especially no organized crime , because people have other choices , no one will join that life because they want to live a life of crime , sure there are some but thats like 10% of them.
Take a look at whats happening in Naples with kids joining Camorra,they have no idea about the life they want to have at 15 years old , but they need new clothes, new shoes , new phone and so on , to impress surroundings ,they can't get it from parents because of bad economic situation, easiest way to get that stuff ? Well crime. Living near Naples I can say that: many boys are sons of people who spent most of his live in prison. The only way to change this situation is to create job as Strax said. But the only big bussiness men wont spent an euro because would pay the Camorra.
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Re: Pluses and Minuses of so-called "made men"
[Re: RushStreet]
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10/23/23 04:03 PM
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Take a look at whats happening in Naples with kids joining Camorra,they have no idea about the life they want to have at 15 years old , but they need new clothes, new shoes , new phone and so on , to impress surroundings ,they can't get it from parents because of bad economic situation, easiest way to get that stuff ? Well crime.
For that part i was talking about Naples specifically. Scampia, Secondigliano and so on . Zen in Palermo too.
Last edited by Strax; 10/23/23 04:03 PM.
"A fish with his mouth closed never get's caught"
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Re: Pluses and Minuses of so-called "made men"
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10/23/23 06:18 PM
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Liggio
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It's a myth that people only join organized crime because of economic disadvantages. People who get involved get involved for all types of reasons. Yes, many because they are poor. But in Italy, China, Japan and other countries accountants, doctors, lawyers, businessmen, people from nearly all walks of life join organized crime. Then you have those who get filthy rich and still stay involved. If it was only for economic reasons, why don't they quit?
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Re: Pluses and Minuses of so-called "made men"
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10/23/23 07:09 PM
10/23/23 07:09 PM
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It's a myth that people only join organized crime because of economic disadvantages. People who get involved get involved for all types of reasons. Yes, many because they are poor. But in Italy, China, Japan and other countries accountants, doctors, lawyers, businessmen, people from nearly all walks of life join organized crime. Then you have those who get filthy rich and still stay involved. If it was only for economic reasons, why don't they quit? One things is the street soldier that kill,sell dope etc and another are the white collars that made bussiness with the mafias. A man that launder dope money or that or who wins a contract thanks to corrupt politicians. Are different worlds but the 95% are people that have no choices for live.
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