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Re: Pluses and Minuses of so-called "made men"
[Re: Hollander]
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10/23/23 09:33 PM
10/23/23 09:33 PM
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It's the same thing with street gangs, some people just want to belong to something and have an identity and a purpose. And some love an adrenaline rush, always involved in crimes or fights. That's why they even shoplift lol to get the adrenaline going. That Jack Garcia told a funny one when Greg De Palma at like 75-80 years old was in a store hiding things in his jacket stealing them, like cheap shit. And Jack called him out and he just said he couldn't help himself he loved it 
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Re: Pluses and Minuses of so-called "made men"
[Re: NYMafia]
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10/24/23 04:01 AM
10/24/23 04:01 AM
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It's the same thing with street gangs, some people just want to belong to something and have an identity and a purpose. And some love an adrenaline rush, always involved in crimes or fights. That's why they even shoplift lol to get the adrenaline going. That Jack Garcia told a funny one when Greg De Palma at like 75-80 years old was in a store hiding things in his jacket stealing them, like cheap shit. And Jack called him out and he just said he couldn't help himself he loved it  Even Renato Vallanzasca a feared killer in 1970s-1980s was arrested recently because was caught stealing underwear during the day release ,I wouldn't call it an adrenaline rush but more a squalid thing.
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Re: Pluses and Minuses of so-called "made men"
[Re: Hollander]
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10/24/23 04:35 AM
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It's the same thing with street gangs, some people just want to belong to something and have an identity and a purpose. And some love an adrenaline rush, always involved in crimes or fights. That's why they even shoplift lol to get the adrenaline going. Similar as degenerate gamblers. They live for the action, the more they lose the more they love the game....until they end up completely broke with no more money sources and sooner or later they end up in some ditch or commit suicide.
Mongol General: Conan, what is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
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Re: Pluses and Minuses of so-called "made men"
[Re: Liggio]
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10/24/23 11:19 AM
10/24/23 11:19 AM
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Speaking of Livavoli, I think it was Peter Livavoli of Detroit, he was wealthy, moved to Arizona. Anyway, he was known for being a really cheap ass. I'll try to find the details. John Pennisi also spoke of a guy who made 30K a month but would still take his car to a friend for a free oil change. Not sure about Peter, but the shoplifting incident I was talking about was about James Licavoli. I mean, the one mentioned here: https://clevelandmagazine.com/in-the-cle/the-read/articles/the-life-and-hard-times-of-cleveland's-mafia Two years ago, this mob boss suffered an embarrassment as deep as his men's botching of the Greene bombing when he was picked up with two associates for shoplifting a pair of trousers at Higbee's in Severance Center. Higbee's dropped the charges.
Willie Marfeo to Henry Tameleo:
1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."
2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
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Re: Pluses and Minuses of so-called "made men"
[Re: Liggio]
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10/24/23 04:48 PM
10/24/23 04:48 PM
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Once again, I'll say that their definition is very different from other people's definition of honor. It doesn't include not committing crimes or stealing from a store. It's about honor and respect (rispetto), but only in their own circle (in particular to their superiors).
Last edited by Hollander; 10/24/23 04:48 PM.
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Re: Pluses and Minuses of so-called "made men"
[Re: NYMafia]
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10/28/23 02:11 PM
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There are, (or were,) certain distinct benefits to being formally inducted. But, on the other hand, there were also definite liabilities to the position as well.
Conversely, so-called "associates," who ran the gamut from lowly nobodies, to extremely important and powerful figures, also had benefits and liabilities to their positions.
But, quite frankly, when you speak of the top-tier, the "top ranked" associates. The men who had lucrative million-dollar rackets and businesses, were considered real street savvy and were "capable" too, those fellas were almost considered the same as a formally inducted guys. (And in some cases, they even ranked higher and held more respect than them.)
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