Another rule that was broke is to dont kill women,I find some names.
Tamara Rand - A widowed investor, she loaned a casino operator (who was actually a front man for the Mafia in Las Vegas) named Allen Glick, $500k USD to set up an investment. Glick embezzled the money and Rand threatened to take him to court. She was shot on November 9, 1975 in her home in San Diego in what was an apparent attempt by the Mafia to silence her. This was recreated (although a lot less brutally as Rand was actually shot in the head FIVE TIMES, instead of the film’s single shot) in the 1995 film Casino.
Theresa Ferrara - Girlfriend of Thomas DeSimone (portrayed in the 1990 film Goodfellas by actor Joe Pesci) . It was believed DeSimone had told Ferrara about the Lufthansa heist, and so she was murdered to prevent her from becoming an informant. Her dismembered remains were found floating offshore of Toms River, New Jersey in 1979, She was identified by the serial numbers on her breast implants.
Joanne Carfora - Murdered along with her husband Louis Carfora in the aftermath of the Lufthansa, likely at the behest of Jimmy Burke, the mastermind of the robbery, or his Mafia boss, Paul Vario Sr.
Joanna Lombardo - A girlfriend of the primary executioner involved in “cleaning up” after the Lufthansa heist, Angelo Sepe. Not only murdered because of what she may have known about the heist, but also because she was a criminal herself and was involved in several drug ripoffs that affected Sepe’s employers, the Lucchese crime family.
Mary Bari - killed by Gregory Scarpa sr crew because believed to be a rat.
Aislin Silva, 19 years old women killed by members of the DeCologero crew in 1996 fearing that she could cooperate.
I think that rule was more related to innocents. Aka the families of members, ect. Once you get involved or stand in the way of something they want, your basically fair game. In these cases they were ratting, or in the case with Rosemarie uva, stealing from them. But if there was a hit on some guy, and the wife or girlfriend was there, they shouldn't be touched, and if they have to be killed for whatever reason (she sees the killers faces, ect) then the blame is still on the killers for not doing their hit properly.
Another rule that was broke is to dont kill women,I find some names.
Tamara Rand - A widowed investor, she loaned a casino operator (who was actually a front man for the Mafia in Las Vegas) named Allen Glick, $500k USD to set up an investment. Glick embezzled the money and Rand threatened to take him to court. She was shot on November 9, 1975 in her home in San Diego in what was an apparent attempt by the Mafia to silence her. This was recreated (although a lot less brutally as Rand was actually shot in the head FIVE TIMES, instead of the film’s single shot) in the 1995 film Casino.
Theresa Ferrara - Girlfriend of Thomas DeSimone (portrayed in the 1990 film Goodfellas by actor Joe Pesci) . It was believed DeSimone had told Ferrara about the Lufthansa heist, and so she was murdered to prevent her from becoming an informant. Her dismembered remains were found floating offshore of Toms River, New Jersey in 1979, She was identified by the serial numbers on her breast implants.
Joanne Carfora - Murdered along with her husband Louis Carfora in the aftermath of the Lufthansa, likely at the behest of Jimmy Burke, the mastermind of the robbery, or his Mafia boss, Paul Vario Sr.
Joanna Lombardo - A girlfriend of the primary executioner involved in “cleaning up” after the Lufthansa heist, Angelo Sepe. Not only murdered because of what she may have known about the heist, but also because she was a criminal herself and was involved in several drug ripoffs that affected Sepe’s employers, the Lucchese crime family.
Mary Bari - killed by Gregory Scarpa sr crew because believed to be a rat.
Aislin Silva, 19 years old women killed by members of the DeCologero crew in 1996 fearing that she could cooperate.
Also Phyllis Burdi and Rosemarie Uva. Other examples?
Re: Women killed by American Mob
[Re: Hollander]
#1093036 06/25/2405:02 PM06/25/2405:02 PM
The Chicago boys used to kill women with the blink of an eye...even torture them....too many to mention all of them...
Don't kill women has never been an offical rule, not in Sicily and not in the USA.
Thats right and take the 1943 murder of Estelle Carey for example. She was first stabbed with an ice pick several times, than they broke her jaw, cut her with a knife and also burned her with an electric iron, and in the end the killers poured flammable liquid on her legs and set them on fire. The poor girl was screaming so hard that her heart immediately stopped from the pain and she finally died.
Mongol General: Conan, what is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
Re: Women killed by American Mob
[Re: Montrose]
#1093039 06/25/2405:10 PM06/25/2405:10 PM
Besides Estelle Carey, Bess Greenbaum and Dauber's wife, you can also include the 1957 murder of Molly Zelko, the 1943 hit on murder witness Cecelia Ashley and also the 1976 murder of Rita Payonk....there are more....
Mongol General: Conan, what is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
Tamara Rand - A widowed investor, she loaned a casino operator (who was actually a front man for the Mafia in Las Vegas) named Allen Glick, $500k USD to set up an investment. Glick embezzled the money and Rand threatened to take him to court. She was shot on November 9, 1975 in her home in San Diego in what was an apparent attempt by the Mafia to silence her. This was recreated (although a lot less brutally as Rand was actually shot in the head FIVE TIMES, instead of the film’s single shot) in the 1995 film Casino.
Theresa Ferrara - Girlfriend of Thomas DeSimone (portrayed in the 1990 film Goodfellas by actor Joe Pesci) . It was believed DeSimone had told Ferrara about the Lufthansa heist, and so she was murdered to prevent her from becoming an informant. Her dismembered remains were found floating offshore of Toms River, New Jersey in 1979, She was identified by the serial numbers on her breast implants.
Joanne Carfora - Murdered along with her husband Louis Carfora in the aftermath of the Lufthansa, likely at the behest of Jimmy Burke, the mastermind of the robbery, or his Mafia boss, Paul Vario Sr.
Jimmy Burke was not a mafia member, and there has never been evidence Vario know about it or gave the go ahead to Burke. Same for Ferrara.
Tamara Rand was a swindler who may have been killed by anyone. I don't think the movie is a reliable source.
Re: Women killed by American Mob
[Re: jace]
#1093073 06/26/2404:56 AM06/26/2404:56 AM
Tamara Rand - A widowed investor, she loaned a casino operator (who was actually a front man for the Mafia in Las Vegas) named Allen Glick, $500k USD to set up an investment. Glick embezzled the money and Rand threatened to take him to court. She was shot on November 9, 1975 in her home in San Diego in what was an apparent attempt by the Mafia to silence her. This was recreated (although a lot less brutally as Rand was actually shot in the head FIVE TIMES, instead of the film’s single shot) in the 1995 film Casino.
Tamara Rand was a swindler who may have been killed by anyone. I don't think the movie is a reliable source.
According to Mafia informer Frank Bompensiero, Spilotro was allegedly behind the Rand hit or at least he was the one who orchestrated it. Heres one convo: "Jimmy, this broad was going to drag Glick through a lot of shit," Bompensiero said. They convo was recorded at the cocktail lounge at the San Francisco Hilton, and Jimmy was pumping Bompensiero on the Rand murder. "So you're still working, you cocksucker?" Jimmy said and later asked "Where'd you get the silencer?" Bompensiero told him "I just took Tony [Spilotro] and showed him her house." "Don't bullshit me," Jimmy said. "He didn't do it alone." Bomp barked a laugh. "I didn't say he did, did I? Don't forget, this Tony's got a crew."
Mongol General: Conan, what is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
Clearly, the mob tolerates the murder of women, many of whom are innocently under the gun in gangland affairs. All it takes is the feeling that she knows too much about criminal activities and is likely to cave in under scrutiny by prosecutors.
Such was the fate of Cherie Golden, a 19-year-old brown-haired beauty with brown eyes and a cherubic smile who had won a Twiggy look-alike contest. She was wooed by John Quinn, a married mobster with six kids on Long Island, who showed Cherie off in Little Italy restaurants.
Unfortunately, he also took Cherie along while negotiating the purchase of hot cars and to a number of chop shops he ran. His superiors in the mob did not like that and warned Quinn to dump Cherie. He refused and then got in severe legal trouble. Suddenly he looked like a prime candidate for becoming a turncoat, and that made Quinn an obvious hit candidate.
Quinn was invited to a mob meeting in a Brooklyn tavern with Roy DeMeo, his boss in the car racket and the Gambino family's ace killer. Quinn brought Cherie along and left her outside in his car. He went inside and was promptly put to sleep with a silencer equipped gun.
Cherie did not hear the shot. Two of the mob's members came to the car and started flirting with her, one on each side of the vehicle. As one of the men distracted the young girl, she turned her head toward him and the other one drew a gun and shot her in the brain. As her head whipped around, she took another bullet in the face. The killers disposed of her body, removing her halter top just to give the police a possible sexual angle to investigate.
DeMeo made the hit on his own without getting higher approval, which upset the recently installed new boss, Paul Castellano. Big Paul recognized the murder as one that could produce very bad press. He wanted to know why the girl was killed.
DeMeo's direct superior, capo Nino Gaggi, was also angered but had to put the best face on the situation and explained she knew too much about the stolen car operations. Castellano was not convinced but could do nothing. He ordered that DeMeo not do any hits without prior approval. "Just talk to Roy," Castellano said. "Make sure people just don't start going who don't have to go."
No punishment was exacted for Cherie's murder, and none seemed to have ever been meted out for other Mafia killings of women. Often a woman is killed simply as an object lesson to her husband or boyfriend to keep his silence.
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Anthony Carfano, aka Little Augie Pisano, died on the streets of Astoria Heights, Queens on September 26, 1959. He was accompanied by Janice Drake, a former Miss New Jersey, who was married to comedian Allan Drake. Some four years later the murders remained unsolved. Little Augie had grown up with Al Capone in New York and later was a well known gangster in Brooklyn.
ThebMaybBari thing is really disturbing and also Cherie Golden. Obviously we know a good amount of civilians have been killed by the mob over the years
Thelma Giroux was a showgirl from LA who hooked up with Genovese mobster Johnny "The Bug" Stopelli. She allegedly committed suicide by jumping out a window while Stopelli was there but it's kind of suspect....he was never charged. It's an interesting story.
Thelma Giroux was a showgirl from LA who hooked up with Genovese mobster Johnny "The Bug" Stopelli. She allegedly committed suicide by jumping out a window while Stopelli was there but it's kind of suspect....he was never charged. It's an interesting story.
Good move, MS. This particular story is a very good contribution to this thread, because it's very apropos.
PS: My money says that Thelma must have been breaking Johnny the Bug's balls one night, so he threw her out the window, smack dab, landing her right onto the pavement along Broadway in midtown Manhattan. Lol.
Another suspicious death in 1974....as I previously said, the old Outfit was constantly killing women and it seems that, they were the prime "liberal" U.S. crime syndicate by giving the females the same "rights" as men lol lol lol jk
Mongol General: Conan, what is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
Re: Women killed by American Mob
[Re: NYMafia]
#1093474 06/30/2411:11 AM06/30/2411:11 AM
Thelma Giroux was a showgirl from LA who hooked up with Genovese mobster Johnny "The Bug" Stopelli. She allegedly committed suicide by jumping out a window while Stopelli was there but it's kind of suspect....he was never charged. It's an interesting story.
Good move, MS. This particular story is a very good contribution to this thread, because it's very apropos.
PS: My money says that Thelma must have been breaking Johnny the Bug's balls one night, so he threw her out the window, smack dab, landing her right onto the pavement along Broadway in midtown Manhattan. Lol.
. Yeah I think you’re right. Damn that’s brutal.
Re: Women killed by American Mob
[Re: JCrusher]
#1093480 06/30/2401:00 PM06/30/2401:00 PM
Thelma Giroux was a showgirl from LA who hooked up with Genovese mobster Johnny "The Bug" Stopelli. She allegedly committed suicide by jumping out a window while Stopelli was there but it's kind of suspect....he was never charged. It's an interesting story.
Good move, MS. This particular story is a very good contribution to this thread, because it's very apropos.
PS: My money says that Thelma must have been breaking Johnny the Bug's balls one night, so he threw her out the window, smack dab, landing her right onto the pavement along Broadway in midtown Manhattan. Lol.
. Yeah I think you’re right. Damn that’s brutal.
No doubt! Stopelli was known as a half-a-bug job anyway. Hence his nickname. Lol