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Re: American mobsters of Irish descent?
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07/23/24 09:28 AM
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Thomas "Blackjack" McGinty was up there. McGinty was a member of the Cleveland Syndicate, which included Jewish gangsters Moe Dalitz, Maurice Kleinman, Louis Rothkopf, Sam Tucker and Charles Polizzi, the adopted brother of Alfred Polizzi, head of the Italian Mayfield Road Mob.[4] The Syndicate's gaming operations were located in Youngstown, Ohio, Covington, Kentucky, Newport, Kentucky and as far away as Florida.[5] McGinty and other members of the Syndicate were stockholders of the Las Vegas casino Desert Inn during the 1950s [1]. He was also involved in Meyer Lansky's Hotel Nacional in Havana, Cuba [2]. McGinty held an interest in numerous race tracks, including Maple Heights, Fair Grounds Race Course, Thistledown Racecourse, Fairmount Park Racetrack, Aurora Downs, and the Agua Caliente Racetrack.[6] McGinty testified before the Kefauver Committee about the Cleveland Syndicate and organized crime. https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/orig-5x7-blackjack-mcginty-mafia-el-118558522
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Re: American mobsters of Irish descent?
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07/23/24 03:29 PM
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Whitey Bulger. He was more powerful then the Mob and from 1979 to 1995 run the winter hill gang with no fear of the Mob or the Fbi. Its really fascinating when you learn about how much power he had. He was not afraid of anyone and was as tough as they come. Its pretty pathetic knowing that they finally attacked him when he was vulnerable restricted to a wheel chair. If they would have tried to kill him during his prime it would have been a death sentence for them both.
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Re: American mobsters of Irish descent?
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07/23/24 06:56 PM
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Owney Madden and William O'Donnell hands down. (Im not sure if Willie is on the list) Ragen's Colts were mostly Irish TD? For a street gang they had a lot of political power I believe some went later to the Outfit.
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Re: American mobsters of Irish descent?
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07/24/24 02:00 PM
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John “The Executioner” Martorano – a star witness at Bulger’s racketeering and murder trial – told the jury that it “sort of broke my heart” when he learned his pal was an FBI informant.
He said Bulger and Stephen “The Rifleman” Flemmi had been his “partners in crime,” his best friends and godfather to his children, the Associated Press reported.
But the news that Bulger and Flemmi were working with the feds “broke all the trust that we had, all loyalty,” Martorano said, according to the Boston Globe.
So he hit them where it hurt: He decided to become a government snitch, too.
As a result of his cooperation agreement, Martorano served just a dozen years in prison even though he admitted to 20 murders, some of which he matter-of-factly recounted in his first hours on the stand.
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Re: American mobsters of Irish descent?
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07/24/24 02:31 PM
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Did he ever rat on his own crew? Not really sure what the problem is if he didn't. He helped them out by feeding information to the FEDS on New England. I believe Martorano had to know being so close to the two men for decades. So I guess they didn't rat on Winter Hill. So what is the problem? There is none. He fuckin helped his crew out by having the FEDS focus their time on the Italians. He didn't Rat to fuck his own guys over like most guys do. On the streets like I said none of those guys give a fuck about you, so why should you care what happens to them? Its part of the business. The only guys you never rat on are your own family and crew.
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Re: American mobsters of Irish descent?
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07/24/24 02:44 PM
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Rush, ya kiddin' with this one, right? Whitey Fucking Bulger? LOL. LOL. He was a complete, unequivocal fucking rat! A slug! A degenerate of the worst category! And that's putting it mildly...AND A WELL-WORN FACT!
He not only gave up the Italians (which is bad enough. Unforgivable, in fact.) But he would, and often "did," give us everybody and anybody else (including his own friends) over the course of many decades to save his own ass.
He killed innocent women, including (if memory serves me) a young girl who he was also either bedding (who was the daughter of a girlfriend or a personal friend of his,) He set friends up to murder them and take their assets. Or set them up for arrest, etc, etc, etc.
You REALLY should research and learn your underworld history, before making such outlandish, silly statements.
Among a bunch of very bad guys, he was the lowest of the low!...Next level degeneracy!
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Re: American mobsters of Irish descent?
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07/27/24 11:00 PM
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I can't believe nobody here mentioned Danny Green. I agree he was a big figure in History. A police investigation revealed that Greene's murder had been a criminal conspiracy between the Mafia families of Cleveland, New York City and Southern California. The investigation also resulted in the defections of Ray Ferritto and Los Angeles boss Jimmy Fratianno, followed by the exposure and arrest of a mole inside the Cleveland FBI. The investigation also laid the groundwork for many Federal prosecutions of the Mafia.
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Re: American mobsters of Irish descent?
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"Long John" Raymond Martorano (not Irish, obviously) AND the Irish K&A gang revolutionized the meth trade in the United States.
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