And what are the family situation in 2024?

Teddy Persico Jr is suposedly the offical boss and some guy named Robert is the acting boss. I personally doubt those guys are in charge of anything.

Me too.If they want to move forward have to close with the Persicos and appoint a boss who is on the streets.

It's not as easy to pinpoint who the boss is as it used to be. That's how it's supposed to be.

Maybe we must wait for another rat to know the name.

Either that or it's another sign of their decline. I just find it strange that in the past we always knew beyond a doubt who the bosses were, these days there's just lots of speculation.

most media have claimed the acting boss is robert d'onofrio or d'onorfio dont remember which, he is a cousin to one of the persicos or the nephew to one of the persicos. would have took over after andrew russos death. if indeed teddy is boss even while soon to be imprisoned for 2021 indictment it will matter little unless this family the colombos inducts new members. another thought would to finally remove any and all influence by anyone remotely related or connected to the persico family. a dynasty they r not, every one of the leaders with that last name have been terrible leaders with no exception including carmine.being behind bars for life and while never having full control of yer own crime family does not denote good leadership. its like the offspring and extended family of carmine operate with the mind of a mexican mafia member, thinking being imprisoned is a good thing that gives you credibility and respect. maybe in the prison gang world but not in american mafia.

I agree with everything that you said Vito, spot on.

thks liggio.

with the above being said though what options would a rival faction even have in 2024? the violence option seems like a non starter. there continues to be no appetite for a 4th colombo war or even taking out anybody from associate level on up, across the board amongst all american mafia families. so for sake of argument lets not even consider the 'violence option.'

how about the term the media describe as quiet quitting? we will assume in this scenario teddy is boss in jail, acting boss d'onofrio is on the street envelopes albeit meager continue to fill the top admins pockets business as usual. but lets say a non persico allied capo like joe amato after his prison stint is up he decides i am going to decrease the amount i am kicking up and maybe make an alliance with another family based in the u.s. or new york. it has been a while since a member from one family has transferred to another let alone a capo but its 2024 so who knows. what is to stop such a scenario? envelopes continue to get smaller and now with the backing of a larger stronger family at some point amato stops sending anything and his operation and crew become part of another family. all of this is pure speculation of course but i think of joe cammarano jr years back allegedly taking a vote amongst capos to become boss or acting boss, effectively the bonnano power at that time. mancuso was imprisoned and cammarano jr did have the power in that family up until 2019+-. cammarano jr never had designs of transferring to another family i know, but what would stop any high level member of colombos of attempting a cammarano type move? the persico leadership would be put between a rock and a hard place. would the top leaders of other mafia families really approve another bloody colombo war in the future? no way. would the persicos have the sack to attempt to take out rivals without any other families consent or backing? i dont want to answer all my own questions but seems doubtful, more likely there would be some kind of peace or sitdown to resolve without major violence.

all to say there are no hard and fast rules when it comes to these mafia families. some believe in the mafia and all its rules, others use it to their own advantage. but the history of the mafia has shown us that anything is possible from alliances, wars, inter family coups and all other kinds of palace intrigue. for the colombos or any family to continue status quo and unchanging they risk losing power on the street to rival crime groups and more importantly i think rival factions inside there own families.

Teddy Persico will be out on december 2025,as he said he have nothing to loose so or someone would whack him,history is destined to repeat.

I gotta agree with Vito, guys like Teddy Persico bring a street gang or prison gang vibe to the Mafia, which is kinda weird. Yeah, kudos for not ever snitching and sticking to the code, but being an institutionalized jailbird at the top of a mob family isn't doing LCN any favors either.

Whack him? LOL. Nobody is whacking anybody.

Then the family will have another Persico as boss.

The Family needs earners at the top. EARNERS. Keep the knuckle-draggers at the bottom or somewhere in the middle.

Boss of what? People outside of NYC have a high opinion of the mob. People here know it's done, the F.B.I. certainly knows it's done, with their 2 member organized crime task force. LOL.

This certainly isn't the days of Carlo Gambino or Sam Giancana, but they're certainly not hurting as much as people think. Still, it's in quite a pathetic shape.

In my opinion all this speculation is silly, there will be no war, no take over, no switching families. It will go on as is falling apart day by day until it’s nothing more than a few old guys talking about the good ole days. Just not worth it. Once they lost and completely lose the unions, judges and politicians it was over. It’s close to being over

Oh, I forgot to mention this family is the most interesting to me through its history. Might be small but it def was bad ass at one time. I’d put it against any of the others as far as true gangsters in its ranks

This is a 2022 chart,for sure was made other people. The family is active also in white collar crime. Just need a boss on the streets to made businesses with other bosses and other oc gruops and not orders from a cell.

The mob doesn't need the unions to earn. Let's not forget Tom Farese and Patsy Truglia's $93 million healthcare fraud. Those guys had fabulous homes and millions in the bank, just to show earning potential. Some of you are very narrow-minded.

Liggio,every crime gruop dont need unions to made money but what was the difference between a mob family and a gang was the organization and the power to control unions,judges ecc

The Colombos was always the most weak and instable due to the Carmine Persico desire to continue to be a boss even with a 100 years sentence.
My opinion is that with a boss on the streets (maybe not related with the Persicos) the Colombos can become more stable and maybe expand.

I get what you mean about the loss of power and influence, but don't kid yourself, at the end of the day it's all about the dollar. And if they're still able to score like that who knows what they're capable of. Yes, just like the Gotti era came to an end, the Persico era also needs to end.

I think guys like Teddy Persico and Gene Gotti should be respected and looked after for the time they put in and sticking to the code, but you can look out for and respect a guy without making him boss. Boss-wise it's in their best interest to move on from them.

If Teddy Persico jr once out in december 2025 will be the new boss,the Persico era will continue for long time.