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Upcoming De Niro film 'Alto Knights' #1098286
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Upcoming film ‘Alto Knights’ depicts mobsters Vito Genovese, Frank Costello in bitter feud
Robert De Niro portrays both crime bosses in Nicholas Pileggi-scripted drama
Published: August 29th, 2024 - By Larry Henry

https://themobmuseum.org/blog/upcom...-genovese-frank-costello-in-bitter-feud/


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Re: Upcoming De Niro film 'Alto Knights' [Re: Hollander] #1098298
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Always happy to have a new mob movie, especiall with the credentials of De Niro and Pileggi.

It's just a shame that it's about an old story. I'd rather have a movie about Chin Gigante (i cannot fathom how come no movie was made about this guy) or Nicky Scarfo.

Still, i look forward to watch it.

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The Alto-Knights was a real place, located Downtown Manhattan's Little Italy neighborhood. It was a mob social club, probably THE mob social club as far as the old Luciano/Genovese/Costello Family went. It was there for many decades. From at least the 1930s through the 1970s era (that I remember) --- And it could have been there even longer than that.

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Any relation to Genovese soldier Jimmy Alto, who also had a club in Little Italy ?

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Originally Posted by Malavita
Any relation to Genovese soldier Jimmy Alto, who also had a club in Little Italy ?


It's possible I guess, but not to my knowledge. We just always knew it as the Alto-Knights S.C. (It had that stencil on the window) And they had a "members only" sign on the door. lol. (naturally)

Everybody who was affiliated with that crew, who was anybody, hung out there at one time of another. And I mean everybody!

Most days you'd see guys all dressed up standing on the sidewalk, just bullshitting and doing business. On nicer days, warmer weather, wiseguys would bring the wooden card table chairs outside on the pavement, and sit around.

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If DeNiro signed onto it, hopefully it'll be another outstanding mob movie.

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British actor Cosmo Jarvis plays Gigante.
James Ciccone plays Carlo Gambino
Louis Mustillo plays Joe Bonanno
Amadeo Fusca plays Charles Luciano
Robert Uricola plays Tony Bender

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Re: Upcoming De Niro film 'Alto Knights' [Re: Hollander] #1098328
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I remain cautiously optimistic.. not sure why the duel role… for what purpose? How does this push his acting credentials , and if it sucks, do you start asking what could have been????

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Originally Posted by Jimmy_Two_Times
I remain cautiously optimistic.. not sure why the duel role… for what purpose? How does this push his acting credentials , and if it sucks, do you start asking what could have been????


Tom Hardy played both Kray twins I thought that was pretty cool, but to play almost identical brothers is easier than to very different mafiosi if one actor can pull it of it's Bobby though.


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I think this is him as Vito.

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Re: Upcoming De Niro film 'Alto Knights' [Re: NYMafia] #1098344
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Originally Posted by NYMafia
The Alto-Knights was a real place, located Downtown Manhattan's Little Italy neighborhood. It was a mob social club, probably THE mob social club as far as the old Luciano/Genovese/Costello Family went. It was there for many decades. From at least the 1930s through the 1970s era (that I remember) --- And it could have been there even longer than that.


Some sources say the club was founded in 1926 first as the Alto Knights Social Club (after an old street gang during Prohibition).
It's interesting they used "Knights" it has a masonic/fraternity touch.


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Originally Posted by Hollander
James is the son of Anthony "Sonny" Ciccone (born July 19, 1934) a New York City mobster and a captain of the Gambino crime family.


HAH! That is absolutely NOT true. If you followed him on IG, you would know about his father's day posts. Unlike Sonny, James' father is long deceased, my friend. Please ensure this is deleted before Google indexes it. Falsehoods like this can have all sorts of consequences, often resulting in harm to the wrong individuals


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I'm not trying to sound disrespectful to his age, but Robert DeNiro has no business playing mobsters unless it's mobsters in their twilight years. He and Al Pacino were horrible for The Irishman for that reason. Joe Pesci too. But not just anyone can portray Mafiosi, maybe that's why they keep getting these roles.

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Originally Posted by Liggio
I'm not trying to sound disrespectful to his age, but Robert DeNiro has no business playing mobsters unless it's mobsters in their twilight years. He and Al Pacino were horrible for The Irishman for that reason. Joe Pesci too. But not just anyone can portray Mafiosi, maybe that's why they keep getting these roles.


I actually like The Irishman. No Goodfellas.or or Casino but on par with The Departed and Gangs of New York.

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I agree with you H. The Irishman was not a bad movie. To me, it proved that those guys can still put out good stuff. Obviously, they are a little too old, but we were all aware of that

But as far as De Niro playing mobsters, he just does it better than almost everybody else. He can still play them. I want to see him play Accardo


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Originally Posted by Giacalone
I agree with you H. The Irishman was not a bad movie. To me, it proved that those guys can still put out good stuff. Obviously, they are a little too old, but we were all aware of that

But as far as De Niro playing mobsters, he just does it better than almost everybody else. He can still play them. I want to see him play Accardo


Pileggi is 91 wow, I agree with him that era of American-Italian mob comes to an end now, Hollywood or Netflix are now more interested in the drug cartels and other forms of organized crime.


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There's some good movies about other mob groups but nothing come close to the classic Mafia movie.

I'd say that the best mob movies and TV series are coming from Europe. Films like A Prophet, Anime Nere or TV shows like Peaky Blinders, Gomorrah are master pieces imo.

A tv show like "La Mafia uccide solo d'estate" was great and very original in the way it portrays the mafia life.


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