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Big Als - Peoria,IL #1098360
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So the strip club here in Peoria got its liquor license suspended cause of criminal activity there was asooting there and manager deleted the footage cause it was her boyfriend that fired the gun...anyways different owners over the last 30 years.....when i was young in early 90s my dad had a health food store next to the club and it was Duane Cassano that owned it then he left for Vegas and sme wanna be named Al Zuccarini got it then he passed away on a freak accident and now since the shooting a guy named Kenneth Kummerow has it...just curious if anybody in Chicago had ever heard of Duane, Al or Keneth ....curious if Kenneth is a relative of the Bosa Bros cousin Eric Kumerow with the Packers.

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Charles Cassano was the only known Chicago associate in Peoria that I know about. After he got out of service after WW2 he hooked up with a Chicago soldier Frank Lisciandrello around 1950s, and helped with the bank as the Shelton brothers ran gambling and bookmaking in the area. I believe Charlie was loyal only to Frank and considered him is friend. After Frank passed away in 1975, Charles moved away from the scene and was more into the legit business. Someone might know more don't know about the others, but it is possible.


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Re: Big Als - Peoria,IL [Re: SonnyfromPeoria] #1098391
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Thanks Giacomo...thata first time ive heard of Charlie Cassano too....my grewt Uncles Sie and Smokey both went at it with The Sheltons mainly Bernie before he got killed...but ive always since tried to find some sort of link or tie to Peoria and The Outfit....but not much...andbi dont know why Peoria has never had any real OC activity...its wide open down here ...always has been.

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Not really you had the Adams, Garrisons, Kelly to name a few of the big names were able to keep them out. The Sheltons came back to Peoria on invite. St. Louis did make a move, but that was done by a St. Louis Shelton lieutenant named Frank Wortman. Now the researcher swears that Wortman had the backing of St. Louis and Springfield crime families. It is possible. The actual killer of Carl and Bernie was Charlie Harris who actually did take a trip to Chicago 2 months before
the war on the brothers began and was in the company of Johnny Bananas, Joe Legno, and the Lisciandrello brothers. Joe Legno is Tony Pinelli, don't know about Johnny Bananas. Who went with him was Max Appleton a bookie who had beef with Bernie Shelton, Harris was a gunman who worked for Wortman from time to time but also worked for other Shelton lieutenants. Once Carl and Bernie were killed, Earl left in 1951 as there were a number of attempts on his life. The only associate I know of Chicago that lived in the area was Charles Cassano, and he helped manage the bank. It is my understanding that Chicago did not interfere with the locals and Wortman became boss of the area, but they did business with other the Italians when it came to laying off bets and gambling to an extent. I find no more troubles after 1955. Narcotics was becoming in the 1950s onwards, but I find no connection with Peoria and the Italians on that side, doesn't mean there wasn't any, just means I can find no info, nor the guy I talked too.


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Re: Big Als - Peoria,IL [Re: SonnyfromPeoria] #1098459
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It seems that the Outfits North Side mob under Prio was mainly stationed in that same area. The Lisciandrellos also belonged to that same crew and in fact, they had ancestors and relatives that went way back with Chicago's former Sicilian Mafia. One of the prime North Side members who often visited Peoria and was also arrested over there and taken to court, was Jimmy Allegretti, including his lieutenant Big Joe Arnold.


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Re: Big Als - Peoria,IL [Re: SonnyfromPeoria] #1098552
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Thanks guys, first time ive heard links to the Liscandrello Bros, Allegretti and Joe Arnold....i know who Frank Wprtman was and Black Charlie....my family has never been named in books or anything but Peoria has big Lebanese community also it was my uncles on my Lebanese side who were going at with Bernie andhis machines at the time....Bernie put his machines in my uncles bar The Hitching Post...next day they put Bernies machines out at the curb and it was few weeks after that Bernie was shot in my uncles parking lot from the woods....ironically both my uncles were at the cabin up in state of Wyoming when they had to come back be questioned.....all the books claim it was Wortman and Harris also.....Thaks again guys.

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Originally Posted by SonnyfromPeoria
Thanks guys, first time ive heard links to the Liscandrello Bros, Allegretti and Joe Arnold....i know who Frank Wprtman was and Black Charlie....my family has never been named in books or anything but Peoria has big Lebanese community also it was my uncles on my Lebanese side who were going at with Bernie andhis machines at the time....Bernie put his machines in my uncles bar The Hitching Post...next day they put Bernies machines out at the curb and it was few weeks after that Bernie was shot in my uncles parking lot from the woods....ironically both my uncles were at the cabin up in state of Wyoming when they had to come back be questioned.....all the books claim it was Wortman and Harris also.....Thaks again guys.


For what it's worth, from the late 1950's until the mid 1970's Lebanon was one of the Outfit's "stations" around the world, operated by the Outfit's so-called "Combine" that was headed by Giancana and his "international" associates..


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Re: Big Als - Peoria,IL [Re: SonnyfromPeoria] #1098575
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Wow i never knew that eiether....i know Detroit has had more of Lebanese OC scene in the Midwest atleast.

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Im not sure but I think they had some casinos over there that were controlled by Outfit operatives such as John Drew or Louis Lederer, and they also had international car theft operations since many foreign actors, businessmen and politicians from different countries had a hard on American cars, followed by the prostitution and dope rackets. I dont remember correctly but I think Giancana also had some huge residence over there, including a golf course and also a hunters club. Im talking about Beirut, Lebanon; of course.

One of Giancana's daughters once said that her father allegedly wanted to "takeover the whole world" and in fact, he wasnt far from accomplishing that same goal, but he obviously didnt have enough time and in the end, everything went down the toilet.


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Originally Posted by SonnyfromPeoria
Wow i never knew that eiether....i know Detroit has had more of Lebanese OC scene in the Midwest atleast.

You should check the Bacci's Pizza at Bradley University run by the kids of Vito Salamone.

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Ya Chi i know wo your talking about the Salamone kids Phil and Vito Jr.....i forgot who there dad was on record with tho....was Bobby Dominic.?

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If there smart they would have a card game somewhere for the rich college kids down here from Chicago suburbs...i met them a few times never asked anout there father but i could tell those boys werent wanting to be Made ....they used to throw me slices all the time tho and i would leave some weed twith them being i manage a dispensary here in Peoria Heights.

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I dont know about the US, but around Europe and the Balkans there are less and less young and rich victims that can be squeezed out of their cash from card games that are fixed or rigged. I dont know if most of them learned the lesson or theres something else...like online games or something like that...


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