2 registered members (Irishman12, 1 invisible),
692
guests, and 19
spiders. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Forums21
Topics43,334
Posts1,085,972
Members10,381
|
Most Online1,100 Jun 10th, 2024
|
|
|
Re: Carlo and Tommy...
[Re: NYMafia]
#1108683
12/19/24 02:38 AM
12/19/24 02:38 AM
|
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 19,694 AZ
Turnbull
|

Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 19,694
AZ
|
Tough call. Both died peacefully in their own beds, at relatively ripe ages (67 Tommy, 76 Carlo). Both had only one prison term for relatively short time (13 months Tommy, 22 months Carlo). Neither filed tax returns  but both appeared to be wealthy and had successful families, relatively peaceful during their long reigns (nearly 20 years for each). BUT:Joe Bonnano, in his autobiography, tells a fascinating story which, if true, diminishes Lucchese: Bonanno says that, early in the Fifties, Frank Costello found out about a plot that Tommy and Vito Genovese were cooking up to whack Albert Anastasia, who was Uncle Frank's chief ally and protector. He called a meeting of the Commission to confront Tommy, with Vito in attendance. According to Don Peppino (in a highly self-laudatory telling), Tommy refused to confirm or deny, stating: "I am a man of honor--I have nothing to say." He kept this up until Bonanno took him aside, explained the gravity of the situation, and counseled Tommy to "place himself at the mercy of Anastasia." Bonanno says Lucchese faced Anastasia, apologized and said, "You, Albert, only you have the right to say if I should die." It worked: Don Umberto replied: "Albert Anastasia does not kill people who beg for his mercy." Bonnano, who earlier referred to Lucchese as "a weasel" and "a sneak," said he "acted like a man of honor that day." I can't imagine a "man of honor" crawling like that before his fellow "men of honor."
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
|
|
|
Re: Carlo and Tommy...
[Re: NYMafia]
#1108701
12/19/24 09:50 AM
12/19/24 09:50 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2022
Posts: 419
Big_Tuna93
Capo
|
Capo
Joined: Jan 2022
Posts: 419
|
Carlo Gambino in my opinion. Aside from Accardo, I don't think there is a more interesting or successful boss in LCN. And depending on the day, I might give him the edge over Accardo.
Last edited by Big_Tuna93; 12/19/24 05:19 PM.
|
|
|
Re: Carlo and Tommy...
[Re: NYMafia]
#1108753
12/19/24 07:39 PM
12/19/24 07:39 PM
|
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 1,525
Lou_Para
Underboss
|
Underboss
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 1,525
|
Carlo Gambino IMHO, He never let his emotions affect his decisions,and over the years built relationships with many future Mob heayweights. He played a large role in helping establish the "Commision". He was content to patiently sit back,observe,and bide his time until further advancement opportunities arose. He could then be very swift and ruthless.
Other than minor jail time,he dedicated himself to living and breathing Cosa Nostra.
It was said that he never ever spoke about incriminating matters If he wanted a man killed,he would do things like lowering his eyes or sighing when the man's name was mentioned. His minions knew exactly what he was asking He very rarely made a mistake,and I think it's ironic that near the end,he made one that not only was incredibly careless,but did grievous harm to his legacy.
I'm speaking of course about Big Paul,which led to the Gotti debacle
|
|
|
Re: Carlo and Tommy...
[Re: Lou_Para]
#1108773
12/19/24 08:18 PM
12/19/24 08:18 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 12,454
NYMafia
OP
|
OP

Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 12,454
|
Carlo Gambino IMHO, He never let his emotions affect his decisions,and over the years built relationships with many future Mob heayweights. He played a large role in helping establish the "Commision". He was content to patiently sit back,observe,and bide his time until further advancement opportunities arose. He could then be very swift and ruthless.
Other than minor jail time,he dedicated himself to living and breathing Cosa Nostra.
It was said that he never ever spoke about incriminating matters If he wanted a man killed,he would do things like lowering his eyes or sighing when the man's name was mentioned. His minions knew exactly what he was asking He very rarely made a mistake,and I think it's ironic that near the end,he made one that not only was incredibly careless,but did grievous harm to his legacy.
I'm speaking of course about Big Paul,which led to the Gotti debacle An intelligent viewpoint. Makes sense too. Carlo is believed to have been that way.
Last edited by NYMafia; 12/19/24 08:19 PM.
|
|
|
|