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Are Mafia movies getting whacked by Hollywood? #1117911
03/22/25 12:25 PM
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Re: Are Mafia movies getting whacked by Hollywood? [Re: BugsyM] #1117914
03/22/25 12:46 PM
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Unfortunately it's gonna be very hard to find actors that can match the performances of De Niro Pacino and Pesci in their prime. Those are the actors that made those movies great along with a great supporting cast which unfortunately many of those people have passed away or are retired from acting. The stories were well written.

For example when Scarface came out it was a story we hadn't seen on screen before. A story about Miami and the drug business (cocaine). You not only had Pacino but a great soundtrack, constumes and filming locations. It would be absolutely almost impossible to recreate a film that lives up to the same standards and meet expectations.

Carlitos Way was good but I believe they f'd up one thing with that. They should've placed the storyline in Miami as well, as I think it would have been even better. With Hollywood magic & makeup you could have even tied in the story with connections to the Sosa Cartel & Tony Montana which would have worked. I am not suggesting that Montana survived but we could have found out that Carlito was related and worked for Sosa possibly as a distributor at one point for example then took over the cocaine business when Tony was killed. Or may have even been a competitor of theirs like we saw happening during the cocaine cowboy stuff in real life.

Would have made it more relatable for fans.

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Re: Are Mafia movies getting whacked by Hollywood? [Re: BugsyM] #1117915
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I agree RS and the genre has to keep re-inventing itself. There have been always good and bad "Mob" movies.

Here is a more positive review about The Alto Knights.

The film's careful recreation of the 1950s is largely due to Robert De Niro's exceptional performance , who brilliantly differentiates the two protagonists through subtle nuances of posture, gaze and diction. Debra Messing , as Bobbie Costello, brings a human dimension to the story by playing a woman aware of the dangers of the world her husband lives in. Cosmo Jarvis delivers a convincing performance as Vincent Gigante, a henchman caught between loyalty and opportunism.

Barry Levinson’s direction is elegant and compelling. The camera is constantly in motion , capturing the latent tension of this world where one wrong step can be fatal. Close-ups during verbal confrontations intensify the exchanges, while wide shots illustrate the characters’ dominance over their urban environment.

Visually, The Alto Knights opts for a dark color palette , dominated by grays and browns, which enhances the oppressive atmosphere of the story. The use of chiaroscuro reflects the moral duality of the main characters, while the muted lighting gives an intimate and menacing dimension to the dialogue scenes. The soundtrack, a mix of jazz and orchestral music , subtly accompanies the escalating tension of the story.

Despite its undeniable formal qualities, the film suffers from an uneven pace , alternating moments of dramatic intensity with more contemplative passages that occasionally hamper the story's momentum. Some of the secondary characters, while promising, could have deserved more in-depth development , especially Vincent Gigante, whose motivations remain superficial.

The Alto Knights may not match the mastery of Casino or The Godfather , but it's a riveting mafia thriller nonetheless , with a masterful performance from Robert De Niro. Levinson has created a twilight drama in which ambition and betrayal seal the fates of two legendary organized crime figures.

With its heavy atmosphere, sharp dialogue and exploration of power games, the film will delight fans of the genre, even if it could have gone further in the psychological exploration of its protagonists . It's a high-flying duel that leaves you with one thing in mind: in the mafia, the real enemy is never far away... sometimes it's even your face.

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Re: Are Mafia movies getting whacked by Hollywood? [Re: BugsyM] #1120260
04/15/25 07:43 PM
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Nothing wrong with this clip.



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Re: Are Mafia movies getting whacked by Hollywood? [Re: BugsyM] #1120264
04/16/25 01:56 AM
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A mafia movie made last year that i Liked is "Fresh kills". It's more about the family around a staten island mob guy than the mob itself but it's a good film.


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