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Happy Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Day! #89456
01/17/05 03:57 PM
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Hope everyone enjoyed their 3 day weekend. I had school today because of a cancellation earlier in the year. Have a good one. Hopefully one day we will recognize Malcolm X and Tupac Shakur for what they did and hopefully we will have no hatred for one another and be united. -Pat


"After every dark night, there's a bright day right after that. No matter how hard it gets, stick your chest out, keep your head up, and handle it." -Tupac Shakur
Re: Happy Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Day! #89457
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today i just got to know alittle bit about MLK day and all. he should be a great man. RIP King.

i wish you all a happy MLK day


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Re: Happy Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Day! #89458
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Yea my sons enjoyed having the day off from school. I liked having them home to.


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Re: Happy Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Day! #89459
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I recently did a History Fair on MLK and the whole civil rights movement, so this holiday holds quite a bit more meaning for me, now. He was a great man with great goals. God bless him, and I hope y'all are all enjoying the holiday.

Re: Happy Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Day! #89460
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It wasn't a holiday for me I still had to work my normal shift.

Patrick I just have to know. Why should the nation recognize Tupac Shakur Just what did he do?

I'm not trying to start a massive argument here, nor am I trying to be a racist.


Re: Happy Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Day! #89461
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I like Marty King. He was a good man.


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Re: Happy Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Day! #89462
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Quote:
Originally posted by The Iceman:
It wasn't a holiday for me I still had to work my normal shift.

Patrick I just have to know. Why should the nation recognize Tupac Shakur Just what did he do?

I'm not trying to start a massive argument here, nor am I trying to be a racist.
Political activist and liberator of the Black race.


"After every dark night, there's a bright day right after that. No matter how hard it gets, stick your chest out, keep your head up, and handle it." -Tupac Shakur
Re: Happy Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Day! #89463
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You had to go to schoo on MLK day? My college and my high school always used to just add a day to the end of the year so we could observe the day.

Tupac? You're saying we should pay national respects to Tupac like we do to MLK??? Observe a day like MLK day for a rapper?

And Malcolm X? Yeah right! He endorsed violence and murder in attempt to have the same goals recognized as MLK! MLK was a good man and see the way he went about it compared to Malcolm X.


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Re: Happy Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Day! #89464
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Quote:
Originally posted by Signore Sole Aumentante:
Tupac? You're saying we should pay national respects to Tupac like we do to MLK??? Observe a day like MLK day for a rapper?
Yes. A great political activist.

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And Malcolm X? Yeah right! He endorsed violence and murder in attempt to have the same goals recognized as MLK! MLK was a good man and see the way he went about it compared to Malcolm X.
And MLK told Blacks that when they get smacked they should turn the other cheek.


"After every dark night, there's a bright day right after that. No matter how hard it gets, stick your chest out, keep your head up, and handle it." -Tupac Shakur
Re: Happy Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Day! #89465
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We should be having holidays for Presidents (not just throwing them altogether into 1 day) before we start giving holidays to Tupac and Malcom X.


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Re: Happy Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Day! #89466
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We should be having holidays for Presidents (not just throwing them altogether into 1 day) before we start giving holidays to Tupac and Malcom X.
We already have President's day. There's only a handful of Presidents who deserve their own day, like FDR and Lincoln. -Pat


"After every dark night, there's a bright day right after that. No matter how hard it gets, stick your chest out, keep your head up, and handle it." -Tupac Shakur
Re: Happy Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Day! #89467
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Washington and Reagan right off the top of my head.

So according to you it's okay to group all Presidents together but we should have individual days for MLK AND Tupac??


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Re: Happy Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Day! #89468
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Quote:
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Washington and Reagan right off the top of my head.

So according to you it's okay to group all Presidents together but we should have individual days for MLK AND Tupac??
It would be impossible to have a day for all 43 Presidents. As I said, there should be days for the best, like FDR and Lincoln etc. Tupac and Malcolm X should have days too, as I've already said. -Pat


"After every dark night, there's a bright day right after that. No matter how hard it gets, stick your chest out, keep your head up, and handle it." -Tupac Shakur
Re: Happy Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Day! #89469
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If 2pac and Malcolm get days, then why not Kurt Cobain or Al Capone?


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Re: Happy Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Day! #89470
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Quote:
Originally posted by Signore Sole Aumentante:
If 2pac and Malcolm get days, then why not Kurt Cobain or Al Capone?
Kurt Cobain was a great writer and guitar player (I'm a Nirvana fan, BTW), yes, but what did he do to change America? Why in the hell should Capone get a day? He was a gangster. What is wrong with you? -Pat


"After every dark night, there's a bright day right after that. No matter how hard it gets, stick your chest out, keep your head up, and handle it." -Tupac Shakur
Re: Happy Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Day! #89471
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Let me explain the analogy.

Cobain has some slight parallels with 2pac, only you feel 2pc did something to change America, and in addition this change was positive. I don't feel he did anything to change America, and the only influence he had was largely bringing "gangsta rap" up in popularity especially among the youth. I think you already know my opinion on the effects of this music. So, in the end, I can't se how a day can be considered for him, I don't see him as a hero, I don't see him as a good person, and I'll go out on a limb and say the vast majority of Americans don't want a day for him, either.

Al Capone should have a day if Malcolm X gets, one, shouldn't he? Malcolm X used violence and murder, same as Capone. Malcolm's goals were black separation and pride, kind of a radical twist of MLK's goals. So, one violence-causing man gets a day, who's to say another shouldn't?


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"I punks ed i gruppi ed i rappers moderni hanno avuti timore migliore il sole aumentante di questa cosa di il nostro."
Re: Happy Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Day! #89472
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Quote:
Originally posted by Signore Sole Aumentante:
Let me explain the analogy.

Cobain has some slight parallels with 2pac, only you feel 2pc did something to change America, and in addition this change was positive. I don't feel he did anything to change America, and the only influence he had was largely bringing "gangsta rap" up in popularity especially among the youth. I think you already know my opinion on the effects of this music. So, in the end, I can't se how a day can be considered for him, I don't see him as a hero, I don't see him as a good person, and I'll go out on a limb and say the vast majority of Americans don't want a day for him, either.

Al Capone should have a day if Malcolm X gets, one, shouldn't he? Malcolm X used violence and murder, same as Capone. Malcolm's goals were black separation and pride, kind of a radical twist of MLK's goals. So, one violence-causing man gets a day, who's to say another shouldn't?
Tupac was the speaker for not only the youth, but for the youth in the ghetto that continues to be ignored. While he definetly perfected gangsta rap, that's nothing compared to what he did to help the poor and inner city.

Malcolm X tried liberating a race that was enslaved for hundreds of years. He had a right to be pissed and try to separate the Blacks and Whites until there was no segregation. Al Capone isn't anything compared to Malcolm X. Al Capone did what he did to benefit himself, and no one else. -Pat


"After every dark night, there's a bright day right after that. No matter how hard it gets, stick your chest out, keep your head up, and handle it." -Tupac Shakur
Re: Happy Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Day! #89473
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Tupac and Malcolm X are nothing compared to the great Republican heroes of Ireland e.g. Michael Collins, Robert Emmet, Wolfe Tone etc. Also present day heroes like Gerry Adams who are still working towards a united Ireland.

Tiocfaidh ar la (Our day will come)

UP THE IRA .


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Re: Happy Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Day! #89474
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I forgot to mention Terence McSwiney, Bobby Sands and all the others who died on hunger strike when the British wouldn't recognise their rights as prisoners of war.
(No offence meant to any


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Re: Happy Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Day! #89475
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I forgot to mention Terence McSwiney, Bobby Sands and all the others who died on hunger strike when the British wouldn't recognise their rights as prisoners of war.
(No offence meant to any English people)


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