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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
[Re: pizzaboy]
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03/15/07 06:39 PM
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I did enjoy Bad Boys II but felt it was a very unnecessary remake. Yeah, um I'm going to go ahead and say that Bad Boys II was a sequel not a "remake". You keep bashing these Bay moives - but I don't think you've watched them all the way either, so basically you're talking out your Irish you know what kind sir. Now am I really going to sit here and say that Bay is a great and masterful film maker - no not really. However at what he does he is more than above par. So instead of social commentary his films are filled with explosions. You know what that is what some people want to see. Did Pearl Harbor suck...yes. Was the Island bad...beyond belief - I mean not Sean Bean as a bad guy, Scarletts fantastic aesthetic appeal, and Djimon Hounsou forceful presence were enough to save it. However being as I've watched them I can say that - without trying to just sound like I have taste.
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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
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03/15/07 11:12 PM
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I did enjoy Bad Boys II but felt it was a very unnecessary remake. Yeah, um I'm going to go ahead and say that Bad Boys II was a sequel not a "remake". I meant sequel, not remake. And yes I do feel it was unecessary You keep bashing these Bay moives - but I don't think you've watched them all the way either, so basically you're talking out your Irish you know what kind sir. However being as I've watched them I can say that - without trying to just sound like I have taste. Ah, I own Bad Boys and Bad Boys II. I've seen The Rock, Pearl Harbor and The Island. Really the only Bay movie I haven't seen is Armageddon (which given the time, I'll do this weekend). So what's with all this "you haven't seen them all sh*t?"
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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
[Re: Brwne Byte]
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03/16/07 12:32 AM
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ARMAGGEDON is a piece of shit that is autuer Bay's ultimate retarded statement. Hell, Billy Bob Thornton in retrospect admits that if it wasn't for the cash, he wouldn't been 300 miles close to that turkey.
The problem with BAD BOYS is that it follows very closely the buddy-cop formula to the hilt, but I've seen it numerous times...and hell if I can ever remember:
(1) The villains & their scheme (2) What did Martin Lawrence ever do to make him justified as a worthy cop protagonist? Will Smith is doing his jiggy with guns, but Martin is supposed to be a clown...except he's about as funny as a Nazi Death Camp.
If anything, what makes BAD BOYS suffer is the fact that it lacks "something" to make it worthwhile. It has the formula, but without anything unique gimmick added, it becomes an average-ass action movie.
BAD BOYS 2 though is just a mediocre 150-minute movie that is 60 minutes too long. Apparently, Bay intentionally kept alot of unncessary footage so to piss off his critics. It worked. That is very petty, since it kept his movie from playing as much in theatres as it could, and make a bigger profit.
But don't get me started on the fucking retarded 3rd act in Cuba. Miami cops take out the Cuban Army? Hey, I know its a banana dictatorship and all, but its an ARMY...and Miami police wouldn't exactly last long against an ARMY.
Did I mention the 5 minute car-ride from Havana to Guantanamo Bay? Jesus....
Thing is, Irish, you ever heard the story about Michael Bay and Ed Harris?
Short answer is, Bay got some bruises.
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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
[Re: Irishman12]
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03/16/07 02:31 AM
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Basically Irish, if the reports are to be believed, Michael Bay fancies himself to be a Steven Spielberg sort of director. However, he wanks himself to think of himself as James Cameron's heir apparent.
Egomaniac aside, he repeatedly asked Ed Harris over and over again during THE ROCK shoot in how Cameron shot this and that scene in THE ABYSS.
Ok, so what? Harris and Cameron fucking hated each other in the infamous hellish production of THE ABYSS, so having a punk music video director fancying himself to be Cameron repeatedly asking about THE ABYSS, which was not a fun time at all for Harris....it sorta pissed Harris off.
After telling him politely to quit, Bay kept doing it...and Harris proceeded to punch him. The crew joked and laughed at Bay for getting his annoying-ass knocked down by Harris.
Hey Irish, answer me this about THE ROCK....why is there mining shafts on Alcatraz?
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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
[Re: suspect_5]
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03/16/07 06:58 AM
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Your asshole talks, like NAKED LUNCH? Wow
what military installation?
Yes, Alcatraz was an American base during the American Civil War, but that basically meant some guys on a piece of rock in San Fran Bay, with some guns and maybe a canon or two. The deepest holes they dug was for the latrines.
Also, I have serious problems with Ed Harris' character motivations in regards to THE ROCK.
He wants to honor his forgotten comrades by bio-weapon bombing the city. Right. Unless he's really a rogue Al Qaeda agent, this is bullshit that no American would think.
Besides, why not simply take over Alcatraz and making it very open? Force it to be public, and embarras the fucking hell out of the American government.
You know, instead of DIE HEAD knock-off #26.
Still, it tells you Michael Bay's lame and terrible career so far when his fans, and haters, seem to agree that this is Bay's best shot film. Talk about being damned with faint praise.
THE ROCK (1996) - **1/2
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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
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03/16/07 09:29 AM
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Hey Irish I sorta remember you telling me something about turning one movie off halfway through - thus my insinuation that you haven't watched them all. Nope, I've seen them all the way through. I turned Blood Diamond off halfway through
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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
[Re: Don Cardi]
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03/16/07 09:49 AM
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PEARL HARBOR (2001) - * - BOMB *
Ronnie, I am interested to know why it is your opinion that Pearl Harbor was a bomb. Apart from the love scenes,i thought this was a decent film,which ive watched many times..must just be me.. Don Cardi 
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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
[Re: Don Cardi]
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03/16/07 09:50 AM
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PEARL HARBOR (2001) - * - BOMB *
Ronnie, I am interested to know why it is your opinion that Pearl Harbor was a bomb. Don Cardi  Apart from the love scenes,i thought this was a decent film,which ive watched many times..must just be me..
The Mafia Is Not Primarily An Organisation Of Murderers. First And Foremost,The Mafia Is Made Up Of Thieves. It Is Driven By Greed And Controlled By Fear.
Between The Law And The Mafia, The Law Is Not The Most To Be Feared
"What if the Mafia were not an organization but a widespread Sicilian attitude of hostility towards the law?"
"Make Love Not War" John Lennon
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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
[Re: Don Cardi]
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03/16/07 11:41 AM
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PEARL HARBOR (2001) - * - BOMB *
Ronnie, I am interested to know why it is your opinion that Pearl Harbor was a bomb. Don Cardi Oh I will...when you tell me why you didn't like THREE KINGS.
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