1 registered members (m2w),
1,000
guests, and 29
spiders. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Forums21
Topics43,337
Posts1,086,004
Members10,381
|
Most Online1,245
|
|
|
Re: Biggest legend in music history
#95932
01/30/05 05:54 PM
01/30/05 05:54 PM
|
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 471
Signore Sole Aumentante
OP
Capo
|
OP
Capo
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 471
|
Damn I forgot about Johnny Cash, too. Oh well. That was quite a list. I personally can't justify putting Cobain & Tupac in there with such stalwarts as Elvis, Lennon & Hendrix. And where was Bob Dylan? I think Cobain is justified in a list of 8-10, but yes Elvis is light years and light years ahead of him. I agree with you about Tupac but I didn't want to get in an argument with Patrick. My vote was for "other" signifying Bruce Springsteen. He's been releasing albums since 1973 and is as relevant today as he ever was at any point during his career. In my opinion this statement was basically contradicting your first statement. I don't think he's been important to any genre, I mean... every person on the list was important to their genre and music history as a whole (except for one), and Bruce Springsteen isn't. I think Cobain is just table scraps compared to Elvis and Sinatra, but I think compared to Springsteen he's the one who's light years ahead.
"Today I settled all family business, so don't tell me you're innocent, Carlo-" Michael Corleone
"I punks ed i gruppi ed i rappers moderni hanno avuti timore migliore il sole aumentante di questa cosa di il nostro."
|
|
|
Re: Biggest legend in music history
#95935
01/31/05 08:59 AM
01/31/05 08:59 AM
|
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 6,762 Anytown, USA
goombah
|

Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 6,762
Anytown, USA
|
Originally posted by Signore Sole Aumentante: In my opinion this statement was basically contradicting your first statement. I don't think he's been important to any genre, I mean... every person on the list was important to their genre and music history as a whole (except for one), and Bruce Springsteen isn't. I think Cobain is just table scraps compared to Elvis and Sinatra, but I think compared to Springsteen he's the one who's light years ahead. [/QUOTE] Not to get into a whole thing here b/c one's man coffee is another man's tea. Music is all about opinion. I'll agree that Cobain was partly responsible for starting the grunge genre, no doubt. And Nirvana's music spawned all kinds of imitators. But it's not that different from punk rock in that it fizzled out after about 10 years. And I have a difficult time putting a guy like Cobain in simply for the fact that he only has a few albums out. Springsteen might not have pioneered a new sound. His was a blend of Phil Spector/Creedence/Dylan. But his stage presence was, and is, unmatched. And that's part of his legacy. In his younger days, the guy would give a 4 hour show for almost an entire 100 city tour. And that was sometimes preceded by a 2 hour soundcheck. Today, he "only" gives 3 hour shows. No performer has given as much of him/herself on stage than the Boss. In addition, he wrote thematic albums, instead of just a collection of songs. For every 1 song he released, he had 4 that he recorded for the same album. "Born in the USA" was 12 songs and 60 were written for the record. He honed his craft to a fine science. Springsteen gave away songs that others would build albums around: "Fire," "Because the Night," "Light of Day," "Pink Cadillac," and "The Fever" to name but a few.
|
|
|
Re: Biggest legend in music history
#95937
01/31/05 06:20 PM
01/31/05 06:20 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,886 Folsom Prison
DonFerro55
Underboss
|
Underboss
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,886
Folsom Prison
|
Even though I already posted i felt the need to clarify:
John Lennon/Paul McCartney, Bob Dylan are the best.
The Doc
And you liar, teller of tall tales: you trample all the Lord's commandments underfoot, you murder, steal, commit adultery, and afterward break into tears, beat your breast, take down your guitar and turn sin into a song. Shrewd devil, you know very well that God pardons singers no matter what they do, because he can simply die for a song.
|
|
|
Re: Biggest legend in music history
#95942
06/07/05 05:49 PM
06/07/05 05:49 PM
|
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 4,273 Hell
Mike Sullivan
Underboss
|
Underboss
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 4,273
Hell
|
I voted for Frank Sinatra. His contribtion to music and to film is uncomperable. He gave us great roles in films like "The Manchurian Candidate" and "The Man with the Golden Arm" and even won an Oscar for "From Here To Eternity". In fact, I feel he was the only redeming factor for a film which I found shallow and pointless. But that's nothing.
Oh, i forgot. He was and remains the single greatest entertainer to this day. Just look at him with the Rat Pack or solo in Concert. If any of you have a live CD of his, he was a funny man.
He also is the single greatest singer ever... He interpreted a lyric so that you could feel immmense joy and passion. But on the other side he could sing a torch song unlike nobody. He could sing a song like "One For My Baby" and you could swear that you just heard an entire lifetime of pain and sorrow.
He also created his own record label which found success until it's merger with Warner's Records. he even conduced albums for other entertainers!
Face it. There's not an entertainer who could pull this off!
Elvis is a good second place...
Madness! Madness! - Major Clipton The Bridge On The River Kwai
GOLD - GOLD - GOLD - GOLD. Bright and Yellow, Hard and Cold, Molten, Graven, Hammered, Rolled, Hard to Get and Light to Hold; Stolen, Borrowed, Squandered - Doled. - Greed
Nothing Is Written Lawrence Of Arabia
|
|
|
Re: Biggest legend in music history
[Re: Mike Sullivan]
#357289
01/16/07 08:54 PM
01/16/07 08:54 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 45,100
DE NIRO
|

Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 45,100
|
Its Still Lennon Elvis Paul McCartney Bob Marley Buddy Holly And Cliff Richard 
The Mafia Is Not Primarily An Organisation Of Murderers. First And Foremost,The Mafia Is Made Up Of Thieves. It Is Driven By Greed And Controlled By Fear.
Between The Law And The Mafia, The Law Is Not The Most To Be Feared
"What if the Mafia were not an organization but a widespread Sicilian attitude of hostility towards the law?"
"Make Love Not War" John Lennon
|
|
|
Re: Biggest legend in music history
[Re: DE NIRO]
#357294
01/16/07 09:25 PM
01/16/07 09:25 PM
|
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 12,724
Double-J
|

Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 12,724
|
Chuck Berry and BB King are conspicuously missing, as are other groups like the Temptations. All had key roles to play in this rock-and-roll journey.
However, imho, no doubt it is Elvis. Sure, Ol' Blue Eyes was a crooner, and the best of his generation, but if we're talking about pure influence and impact on the musical genre, then by far and away, Elvis blended the negro-rock of the time with his Gospel voice, making the exclusively black music acceptable across racial lines.
A close second would be The Beatles, since obviously they're impact is overwhelming. But Elvis made rock-and-roll, well, rock.
|
|
|
Re: Biggest legend in music history
[Re: DE NIRO]
#357299
01/16/07 10:06 PM
01/16/07 10:06 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,886 Folsom Prison
DonFerro55
Underboss
|
Underboss
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,886
Folsom Prison
|
And you liar, teller of tall tales: you trample all the Lord's commandments underfoot, you murder, steal, commit adultery, and afterward break into tears, beat your breast, take down your guitar and turn sin into a song. Shrewd devil, you know very well that God pardons singers no matter what they do, because he can simply die for a song.
|
|
|
Re: Biggest legend in music history
[Re: Double-J]
#357313
01/16/07 10:21 PM
01/16/07 10:21 PM
|
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 11,797 Pennsylvania
klydon1
|

Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 11,797
Pennsylvania
|
Chuck Berry and BB King are conspicuously missing, as are other groups like the Temptations. All had key roles to play in this rock-and-roll journey.
However, imho, no doubt it is Elvis. Sure, Ol' Blue Eyes was a crooner, and the best of his generation, but if we're talking about pure influence and impact on the musical genre, then by far and away, Elvis blended the negro-rock of the time with his Gospel voice, making the exclusively black music acceptable across racial lines.
A close second would be The Beatles, since obviously they're impact is overwhelming. But Elvis made rock-and-roll, well, rock. Ditto for me.
|
|
|
Re: Biggest legend in music history
[Re: DE NIRO]
#357378
01/17/07 07:13 AM
01/17/07 07:13 AM
|
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 12,543 Gateshead, UK
Capo de La Cosa Nostra
|

Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 12,543
Gateshead, UK
|
Well we like this music.with around 99% of the world. I like Music. Love it, in fact. I'm not sure what " this" music is, but the chances are I might like that too. But "Music History" is too broad a scope to restrict to 20th century performers. Though this thread does bring up unintended questions about the whole myth placed around icons and so-called legends... If Music existed before electric, did Legends?
Last edited by Capo de La Cosa Nostra; 01/17/07 07:15 AM.
...dot com bold typeface rhetoric. You go clickety click and get your head split. 'The hell you look like on a message board Discussing whether or not the Brother is hardcore?
|
|
|
|