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Re: The Pianist
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07/09/05 04:04 PM
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I've only seen one Polanski film, Chinatown. I gave up The Pianist several times to get something else, which I regret. 
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Re: The Pianist
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07/09/05 08:54 PM
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Oh, I absolutely love it. I think it is the second best Holocaust film, the best naturally being Schindler's List. However, on a personal scale, I did enjoy this more than Schindler; but on a strictly profesional scale, in relation to display of cinematic establishment, Schindler's List beat it.
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Re: The Pianist
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07/10/05 08:56 AM
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Al.Neri
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It's a good film, but not better than Schindlers List.
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Re: The Pianist
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07/11/05 07:42 AM
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Al.Neri
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I still believe Schindlers List is far better. I've only seen it two-three times even though I have it on dvd, just because you have to be in a special mood to watch it..
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Re: The Pianist
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07/11/05 08:11 AM
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Originally posted by Al.Neri: you have to be in a special mood to watch it.. you definitely have to, Al!  I rewatched it last winter after a long time. It broke my heart as if it was the first time. Usual Spielberg's direction ability, extremely good actors, all of them. In a word, a masterpiece.
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Re: The Pianist
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07/11/05 07:28 PM
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Over-length? You call two and one half hours long? Meh...
If the story and production are good, time should not matter.
"Somebody told me when the bomb hits, everybody in a two mile radius will be instantly sublimated, but if you lay face down on the ground for some time, avoiding the residual ripples of heat, you might survive, permanently fucked up and twisted like you're always underwater refracted. But if you do go gas, there's nothing you can do if the air that was once you is mingled and mashed with the kicked up molecules of the enemy's former body. Big-kid-tested, motherf--ker approved."
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Re: The Pianist
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07/12/05 04:59 PM
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It's been more than I year since I saw The Pianist, and since I read more about the 3rd Reich and National Socialsm I didn't feel anymore like watching it again. The acting was good, good story and the decors looked very good. The problem that I have with movies like this, as I have with for instance Schindler's List and American History X, is that it just contributes to making people think that the National Socialists were all that bad (Of course they comitted warcrimes), but we never see or hear about any warcrimes comitted by for example the Soviets, or the Americans, or the English. The Pianist in my opinon is just that another piece of media convincing people that National Socialsm was that horiffic and all German people should feel so shamed about this alleged holocaust. I say alledged because many of the "standarised" facts on the holocaust have never been backed up with any exclusive evidence of whatsoever, that of course doesn't make the horiffic scenes in The Pianist less far of the truth as it really were and the crimes comitted by the wehrmacht and SS in Warsaw less real.
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Re: The Pianist
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07/13/05 03:26 AM
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Originally posted by Michael Corleone 14: is that it just contributes to making people think that the National Socialists were all that bad that would be enough to justify the making of films like these, MC14. Originally posted by Michael Corleone 14: (Of course they comitted warcrimes),  They were NOT JUST WARCRIMES. They were horrible crimes AGAINST HUMANITY!!  And if you really got infos on what Nazional Socialism was all about, you should know it. I don't know how old you are. Maybe the number 14 in your nickname is your age. If so, that's the only excuse you have for your ignorance. Originally posted by Michael Corleone 14: The Pianist in my opinon is just that another piece of media convincing people that National Socialsm was that horiffic and all German people should feel so shamed about this alleged holocaust. I say alledged because many of the "standarised" facts on the holocaust have never been backed up with any exclusive evidence of whatsoever, shame on you.
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Re: The Pianist
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07/13/05 10:30 AM
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Well said, Lavinia, there's not much to add to that. Maybe this: :rolleyes: .
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Re: The Pianist
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07/13/05 10:42 AM
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The problem that I have with movies like this, as I have with for instance Schindler's List and American History X, is that it just contributes to making people think that the National Socialists were all that bad (Of course they comitted warcrimes), Jesus, maybe it doesn't have to do with the fact that Roman Polanski was actually in the ghettos during WW2, and was making a very personal film. :rolleyes: -------------------- I guess these are all lies?  Here's my favorite, it's actually Amon Goeth, actually holding a rifle to kill Jews for no reason. 
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Re: The Pianist
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07/14/05 05:21 PM
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Al.Neri
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Terrible pictures, DV! Here in Norway it's tradition for many students to visit Poland and to see the Auschwitz camp when they are about 16. I visited Poland for two years ago with my former class. For those of you who are interested in the Holocaust, you should go to Auschwitz. It's a memory for life.
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Re: The Pianist
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07/15/05 05:20 PM
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Originally posted by Al.Neri: Terrible pictures, DV! What? You've not seen them before? Mick
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Re: The Pianist
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07/19/05 06:12 PM
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Originally posted by Michael Corleone 14: It's been more than I year since I saw The Pianist, and since I read more about the 3rd Reich and National Socialsm I didn't feel anymore like watching it again. The acting was good, good story and the decors looked very good. The problem that I have with movies like this, as I have with for instance Schindler's List and American History X, is that it just contributes to making people think that the National Socialists were all that bad (Of course they comitted warcrimes), but we never see or hear about any warcrimes comitted by for example the Soviets, or the Americans, or the English. The Pianist in my opinon is just that another piece of media convincing people that National Socialsm was that horiffic and all German people should feel so shamed about this alleged holocaust. I say alledged because many of the "standarised" facts on the holocaust have never been backed up with any exclusive evidence of whatsoever, that of course doesn't make the horiffic scenes in The Pianist less far of the truth as it really were and the crimes comitted by the wehrmacht and SS in Warsaw less real. I nominate Michael Corleone 14's post as dumbest of the year... "Alleged", pfft. 
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Re: The Pianist
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07/20/05 01:20 PM
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Al.Neri
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Originally posted by Capo de La Cosa Nostra: [quote]Originally posted by Al.Neri: [b] Terrible pictures, DV! What? You've not seen them before? Mick [/b][/quote]Maybe not these exact pictures, but as mentioned, I've been to Auschwitz, and the impression you get is very much the same as the pictures you see above here.
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Re: The Pianist
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07/20/05 06:32 PM
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Originally posted by Al.Neri: [quote]Originally posted by Capo de La Cosa Nostra: [b] [quote]Originally posted by Al.Neri: [b] Terrible pictures, DV! What? You've not seen them before? Mick [/b][/quote]Maybe not these exact pictures, but as mentioned, I've been to Auschwitz, and the impression you get is very much the same as the pictures you see above here. [/b][/quote]How is Oslo, Neri? When did you go to Auschwitz, Mick? It would have made the Holocaust a much more believable hoax, had that particular camp not changed the plates decreasing the number of dead Jews and other refugees from 4 million to 1.4 million dead, during in the '70's. Such a drastic change can hardly have come from a simple mathematical error or have been a product of newly discovered documents in the 70's. Vercetti - before you post ignorance; those pictures are from the Gulags, as well as the endless footage you see on The History Channel.
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