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Re: Sad for Michael
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07/13/04 03:17 PM
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Originally posted by DeathByClotheshanger: ...Not to mention killing Fredo and practically ignoring his mother... I don't get the impression Michael 'ignored' his mother. She had her own house on the Nevada compound & he took care of her until the day she died. It's just that Mrs. Corleone was a minor character or more of a 'background' character in both GF and the current day scenes of GFII...so there would be no purpose in showing interaction between herself and Michael. In fact one of the main reasons for that little fireside chat between Michael and mama may have been to have just ONE moment between the two of them...much like the final one with his father in The Godfather. Apple
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Re: Sad for Michael
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07/13/04 10:01 PM
07/13/04 10:01 PM
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Its a hard job but someone had to it and that someone was Michael. He had a choice his family or the business and he chose the business.
"Well you just do what I tell you to do! Goddamn it! If I had a wartime consiglieri -- a Sicilian -- I wouldn't be in this shape! Pop had Genco -- look what I got." - Sonny Corleone
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Re: Sad for Michael
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07/14/04 01:33 AM
07/14/04 01:33 AM
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Originally posted by Patrick: DBC--I must've missed this. I knew he turned his back on Tessio, but when did he turn his back on Clemenza? "That was no heart attack." - Willie Cicci - Godfather part 2. A Possible hint.
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Re: Sad for Michael
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07/14/04 08:16 AM
07/14/04 08:16 AM
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hmm.. interesting topic.
At the end of the first Godfather, I really did pity Michael. His father and older brother Sonny were both shaky towards his military life and his girlfriend.. Then when Tessio's men weren't at the hospital, Michael felt compelled to fight for his father and let his need for revenge overcome him.. which eventually led to his transformation into a mafia lord.
The deaths of people close to him also would've been really painful. He lost Apollonia to his bodyguard that he had trusted with his own life.. he also lost Sonny without seeing him for over a year. His last goodbye to his older brother was when he was about to go through with the 'confirmation'.
In The Godfather Part II, I can't argue the fact that Michael does indeed play the cruel part and his actions aren't justified, but I still think that a horrifying past and sudden entrance into this most sinister Mafia world would turn anyone into a new person.. He turns against Fredo after pretending to forgive him, which is horrible, considering that he was never intentionally trying to hurt Michael. He subtly pushes away from Tom.. He doesn't speak to his mother with any form of love.. Even Connie gets converted to the 'dark side'.. hehe...
I think that the nature of the flashbacks with Vito and his natural ability to gain friends and strengthen his family really contrasted with Michael's corruption as the new Don..
To conclude, at the end of the first film, perhaps I did pity Michael because of the events that caused him to act, but after seeing the second film, Michael has gone past the level of strict mafia don to more of a sinister, cold-blooded dictator..
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Re: Sad for Michael
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07/14/04 10:08 AM
07/14/04 10:08 AM
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I'd like to revise my statement. In Parts I and II, it's hard for me to feel sorry for Michael.
But by Part III, he is a changed man and has had time to think about his past actions and he truely looks like he is going through some turmoil over them. Whereas in Parts I and II he simply looks like, business is business and what needs to be done will be done.
I have often said that the Michael in Part III is just Pacino giving one of his modern day performances. It is, in some way, but I think Pacino also did an excellent job showing Michael as an older man riddled with guilt.
And in Part III is where I see the sadness, which is why I balled for hours on end after the first time I watched it and why I still get misty eyed after each viewing.
So yes, in the end, it is sad for Michael.
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